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Cultural mis-appropriation does not happen outside of India the biggest threat to indigenous Bauls is right inside India.
Yes, Krishnendu Das Baul aka Babu Kishan had a job as a Music Composer, this was his inborn talent given to him by Tara ma aka Nila Saraswati as Nabani Das Khyapa Baul his grandfather and Baul Guru brought him to the burning grounds at Tarapith not long after his birth. Now all of a sudden after writing this story years ago, the pretendian Bauls became associtated with Tantra, Tarapith and Kankali Tala where only Nabani Das Khyapa Baul the only Baul Avadhuta was associated specifically with these Shakti Peeth, no other Bauls even from his lineage were associated in way, because they were more Vaishnava, Nabani was a one of kind Baul Avadhuta, historically there have been others, but since 1969 no other Bauls did the deep sadhana there and in the burning grounds. Ones who are showing that they are BAUL and associated with Tarapith are fakes in the first place, deep acting fakes, using the associations of this lineage the only lineage of Baul to draw attention to themselves, stealing the kirtans and songs from this lineage and watering down and reducing indigenous Baul with false narratives.
Yes, fake pretendian Bauls started to hang around Tarapith, however, we know they were just copying Nabani Das Khyapa Baul trying to be him to obtain trips around the world, Babu Kishan knew them all, one fake from East Bengal Bangladesh even made lies he knew Bob Dylan which is an absolute lie, they all wanted to be Purna Das Baul compete with Purna Das Baul and there is even a story of a rape of white women, so many stories all to be released to the light. How would you know, you wouldn't because they stories have been hidden, however the truth must come out. It has been this way since the 1970's. The authentic Bauls became marginalized and taken over by fake, shilpi, pretendian Bauls telling fake stories and making up lineages, leaving little room for the indigenous Bauls to survive this world, omg the things that happened of how Baul was used, the villagers were used and the indigenous women were used. Many indigenous Bauls became alcoholic, how anyone can continue on using Baul and telling lies I have no idea, it truly is indigenous fraud.
However today we have a new Phenomena, fake Bauls remaking the lived history of this lineage and pretending they did the work, they are the ones, the real stories and names always left off or used to show how the fakes are real when they are fake, this is a symptom of Kali Yuga "What appears real is fake and what is fake appears to be real because they fake Bauls are actors, acting their sweetness, humility as Bauls when Bauls never liked fake or liars and always called them out loudly, it is time to reclaim Baul loudly.
Baul is inside of KD Babu Kishan he does not need to play dress up or play pretend, what is indigenous to him deep inside, he was born a Baul in the lap of his Guru and Grandfather because Baul is always from families.
As an indigenous Baul, as with all indigenous Bauls they had to survive.
KD Babu Kishan created a modern template for his family to survive, doing cultural programs throughout India and the world. The template he created for indigenous Baul and has been stolen by fake pretendian non-indigenous Bauls. Baul has become the Ma and Baba business of fakery, lies, of acting. Acting with innocent humility, with love bombing smiles, oh such sugary sweet innocence. The lived lives of this one and only lineage has been appropriated, their associations, acted out for the camera as if they were the ones, remade into generic stories, making Baul random so they can grab this lineages associations firsts and last regarding this one and only lineage Das Baul and Dasi (Chandra Gosi) from Ekachakra Birbhum W Bengal India. Sounds insane, because it is.
A few things that need clarification, they are false narratives spread constantly.
Bauls are not nomads, academia always makes up false narratives of what they do not understand. First one must know what a nomad is, Bauls do not herd sheep, cows or livestock?
Distinctions matter, Bauls are not aul, sai, dervish, fakir, shah, they are not Muslim or Islamic this is still repeated by fake pretendian shilpi Baul actors. There is a story here, but it is too long and it is in the Book regarding every angle of how this false narrative came about.
Baul does not mean the Ayurvedic term Vatul a one sanskrit word, which is vata derangement or mad, or afflicted by the wind. This has been a huge mistake and lack of understanding repeated by academics starting With Edward Dimock. Please understand Baul is composed of 2 Sanskrit words, Vayu and Tula, these words have to be understood completely before one can self-detrmine who the indigenous Bauls are and the self-determination should only come from indigenous Bauls. Who is 'Vayu', who is the son of the Wind God Vayu, who is Bir what does Birbhum mean, what is Tula? Baul is Vayu Tula, V is always B in vernacular Birbhum Bengali. Birbhum is Vira Bhumi who is the Vira of Vayu?
Think think stretch your mind, Baula is ancient, it is indigenous to the stories of the Veda and Tantric agama's you can't just show up at the Ramakrishna Mission one day and take pictures as if you did all the work, this lineage has been fundraising for them for decades, Babu Kishan is the first and the last Baul to attend the for 12 years as a monk. The fakes come along and say Mommy and Daddy like Ramakrishna, well good for them, did you or they ever fundraise for them? You can fake your linkage regarding Baul with the already first and last and final history of lived Baul, It is kind of like being a dog going around peeing on this lineages already lived lives, trying to claim their already lived history? Bizarre beyond any reality. The time of fake it til you make it is over, it is now the time of truth once again.
How do the 2 Sanskrit words interact, how would you feel is you were an indigenous Baul who is language is indigenous oral Sanskrit and people called you mad or afflicted by the wind? Baul does not mean either and if you want to know, it is here in this blog and in the new book to be released this year. Baul has nothing to do with a colonial English mind.
Regarding the Tattvas of the Baul in Baul Tantra: Please note:
Baul and the tattva's now mentioned have been copied from a book, in fact they have been copied from Babu Kishan's notes, and they have been copied right off Purna Das Bauls book, 'Baul Philosophy' no one ever taught or talked about Baul tattva's before.
Now all over a sudden over the past few years day by day everything from this lineage is picked to the bone and remade as if the fake shilpi Bauls have lived this lineages lives.
The Baul tattva's were only first written about by KD Babu Kishan and they were copied into the book. "Baul Philosophy" by Purna Das Baul and Selina Thielemann who copied them directly from KD Babu Kishan notes left in the Calcutta home.
The titles of the chapters from that book were copied and listed as to a workshop years ago that Parvathy Baul was giving? The explanations have only been given as basics. If they are being taught, talked about, they are only known briefly from this lineage.
I have notes of them being used directly from the book listed, chapter by chapter in the same order as the ' Baul Philosophy' as to a workshop ad as to what Parvathy B was teaching in that workshop. That is not how Baul Tantra works, and those teachings were given a bare minimum. I have proof as my husband is KD Babu Kishan and I have documented everything for intellectual property theft and indigenous fraud purposes for 20 years my files range in the tune of 15,000 files regarding Baul. Crazy perhaps, but I am passionate and crazy when it comes to research, and study since the 1970's.
I have read every book on Baul they only have been mentioned in the book Baul Philosophy which much of it was taken from KD Babu Kishan's notes left in his fathers home in Calcutta. He was taught these tattva's by Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, yes of course Purna Das Baul would know them indigenously, however, he never spoke English which the book was written in and besides Silina the co-writer of the book into English admitted this to KD Babu Kishan. I can see what has gone on and what the progression is. You can not learn or be taught Baul from a book?
I can see what has gone on and what the progression is. You can not learn or be taught Baul from a book and certainly you can not teach Baul by listing the titles of every chapter of a book, acting as if you know, reconstructing the intellectual property taken from this lineage, songs, Nabani style dance Ektara, Baya, his own style of ankle bells Nupoor of metal encased bells? How would anybody know, they wouldn't thus, I am telling you.
I have alluded for almost a decades without mentioning names, however, over the past ten years it is has become a viral trait with nobody saying anything, the main disease of out time extinction through bolder and bolder actions, and trying to fundraise in the name of Baul to preserve Baul when KD Babu Kishan has preserved Baul for over 60 years, now to see his intellectual property and the intellectual property of this one and only lineage picked to the bones.
https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/04/fake-pretendian-hawker-baul-critique.html
https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/02/indigenous-identity-theft-indigenous.html
Disclaimer: this one and only lineage or Baul Sampradaya is not in any way associated with fake Baul lineage of Ma Parvathy and her Sri Sri partner and her fake Sri Sri Guru?
Pretendian Bauls:
Fraud and identity theft are erasing indigenous Baul, by replacing indigenous Baul?
The Pretendians is a documentary made in Canada that gives a clear picture of the seriousness of the subject of pretendian you are something that you are not. “When people steal from our culture they end up distorting our culture, they turn it into something we do not even recognize, erasing us by replacing us.” This has happened to Baul, they have been erased by fake Bauls who have distorted Baul which is an indigenous tradition, lineage based on ancestry.
https://www.knowledge.ca/program/pretendians
https://globalnews.ca/news/9450313/pretendians-canada-indigenous-ancestry/
https://brighterworld.mcmaster.ca/articles/analysis-bourassa-pretendian-metis-scholars-redefined-indigenous-identity-policy/
Cultural Mis-Appropriation = Indigenous Genocide, leads to the deletion of Indigenous ancestral Bauls and is replaced by the pretendian Bauls.
Pretendian Bauls:
Fraud and identity theft are erasing indigenous Baul, by replacing indigenous Baul?
The Pretendians is a documentary made in Canada that gives a clear picture of the seriousness of the subject of pretendian you are something that you are not. “When people steal from our culture they end up distorting our culture, they turn it into something we do not even recognize, erasing us by replacing us.” This has happened to Baul, they have been erased by fake Bauls who have distorted Baul which is an indigenous tradition, lineage based on ancestry.
https://www.knowledge.ca/program/pretendians
https://globalnews.ca/news/9450313/pretendians-canada-indigenous-ancestry/
https://brighterworld.mcmaster.ca/articles/analysis-bourassa-pretendian-metis-scholars-redefined-indigenous-identity-policy/
The wokism of the world has allowed people to self-identify as cats, and dogs? People self identify as yogis, music composers which is the PHD of music, and every indigenous group in the world. The problem with self-identification with indigenous Baul or perhaps any indigenous group has taken away the self-determination and opportunities of these marginalized groups. When the indigenous people are not the representatives of their ancient ancestry and they are replaced by outsiders who merely copy their dress, style, songs and narratives, the survival of these groups is extinguished because the essence is not present.
Moving beyond self-identification
"While the revelation of Bourassa’s identity fraud brought tremendous hurt and feelings of betrayal to the Métis and broader Indigenous community, we did not anticipate our complaint would transform identity politics.”
In Canada, universities, governments and other agencies are now implementing ancestry-verification policies. Individuals are required to show proof of membership, connection or citizenship to an Indigenous community when applying for opportunities reserved for Indigenous Peoples.’
Those opportunities reserved for indigenous people include grants, funding, awards, prestige and opportunities specifically set aside to help marginalized communities who are indigenous.
“There are two kinds of fraudsters, according to Teillet: fabricators who invent Indigenous identities whole cloth and embellishers who exaggerate some perceived connection.
Some embellishers bolster their claims using the results of DNA tests showing small percentages of Indigenous heritage. Others exploit unverified family stories about a distant Indigenous relative. Whatever kind of identity fraud they’re engaging in, they generally lie to get ahead professionally.
Maybe they want an Indigenous award or grant or acceptance into networks that are closed to them.
Such fraudsters exploit affirmative action initiatives or diversity, equity and inclusion protections,” says Teillet.
As an Indigenous applicant, the person could be accepted into law or medical school when they’d otherwise be rejected. And sometimes, the motivation is even simpler: “They want something that makes them unique and different, and this gives them a chance to say they’re special,” Teillet says.
https://torontolife.com/deep-dives/gill-sisters-pretendian-fraud/
“Their adoption of Indigenous identities allows them access to jobs, money, and opportunities that are set aside for Indigenous people. Pretendians raise issues with respect to employment/labour law, charter, and privacy issues. It also calls into question recent Supreme Court of Canada case law. These identity issues – whether it is an individual right to identify as Indigenous, whether the Indigenous nation has any say, whether there are any necessary requirements to claim an Indigenous identity – are very much in the spotlight as writers, filmmakers, lawyers, and academics are exposed in the press for having little or no right to the Indigenous identities they have been claiming. Some have made these dubious claims for decades and have built fame, prestige, and careers on them.”
“What a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive — that’s what happens. They get tangled up in their own stories,” said Teillet, who is the great-grandniece of famed Metis leader Louis Riel. Teillet’s report examined the harm caused by Indigenous identity fraud, outlined red flags for spotting potential deceit and suggested measures to prevent it. It came in the wake of a series of controversies over claims of Indigenous identity by prominent members of Canadian academic, literary and entertainment circles in recent years.” Canadian Lawyer Jean Teillet LLP
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/indigenous-identity-theft-is-more-widespread-than-people-think-says-metis-lawyer-jean-teillet/
Seriously and it may sound petty but there is pretendian Baul and their social media minions who have been telling Babu Kishan's personal lived stories about Nabani and name dropping Bob Dylans name as if they actually know, they don't, telling stories from this blog that have only he has ever been told here. This is identity theft and intellectual property theft, copying his life, where he goes, what he has lived bit by bit, copying Purna Das Baul and Nabani Das Baul and making up fake Baul Guru's and Fake Baul lineages (all can be proved and is documented). Just because it looks exotic does not mean it is, the more exotic a person looks the more fake they usually are, it is costume, if you are interested in Baul you have to be smarter than social media charm.
Unfortunately this is a real thing regarding the new phenomenon
of social media faked famed pretendian Baul actors,
sometimes called Baul artists or Baul Masters?
Appreciation and Appropriation
are 2 completely different things.
The truth is like water, it always finds a way out, it may take decades, however, truth will flow, the truth can not be held back. Satya or truth is the first principle of Baul and Baul (Vayu Tula) B is V in vernacular Bengali = Bayu tula = Batula = Baul. 2 Sanskrit words from an oral Sanskrit tradition with manuscripts born from Birbhum W Bengal India.
This pioneering one and only lineage aka Guru shishya Sampradaya made Baul famous, and if they didn't no one in India or the world would use Baul to travel the world, recording contracts, posing as Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, Padma Shri Pandit (Baul Samrat) the titles given by Presidents of India over decades for Purna Das Baul and Krishnendu Das Baul aka Babu Kishan who has been instrumental in recording over 80% of his father's Purna Das Baul most popular music copied by all pretendian fake nakal, shilpi actor Bauls while creating the template for his indigenous family of Bauls.
FYI, you decide, ask the questions, never take superficial answers, learn to ask the questions, never fall prey to fake devotion it leads to fanaticism and the cult mind virus, touch your own feet. Always, be careful of love bombing, superficial displays of harmony, humility, overly sweet syrupy innocence, too much smiling, it is all fake.
Ask yourself how can an ancient lineage of indigenous Bauls have their lived lives appropriated, their names taken off and replaced by fake Bauls who are reworking every aspect of this lineages already lived lives as first and last regarding Baul.
These indigenous Bauls story, past and present one by one remade for youtube promotions then listing off of each name? In Canada this is illegal to use indigenous intellectual property. The united nations rights on indigenous people say only an indigenous person can self-determine who they are.
In India there are laws too, however, there are too many people, 'faking it til they make it' for fame or financial benefits, this is not Hinduphobia this is cleaning up the liars and cheats, the Ma or Baba business. However, fakers are being uncovered by many youtubers today, the fakes are frowned upon in India too, and when they are they always move outward to America or overseas, where ever they can cheat some innocent people.
India has always had a system and philosophy of debate to qualify who is authentic and who is not, it does not look like this common sense is alive anymore, although I can tell you KD Babu Kishan was specifically trained in this system backwards and forwards, he can face read who you are. He spent decades teaching and qualifying others as to their understanding of Indian spirituality. He did not create youtube videos spreading a few second clips of what Tarapith is, he lived it and was on the board of Tarapith for a very long time, so he knows what and who used to hand out there?
Today in India, more people are speaking out about indigenous fraud and some are even educated in Purva Paksha which is part of one of the major groups of Indian Philosophical systems called Mimamsa Philosophy. KD Babu Kishan is an expert in all the Indian philosophical systems and in his younger days one of his mentors a Calcutta and Bombay Supreme court judge used to travel around using these systems of debate and questioning who is fake and who is real in India regarding Guru's, Tantrics, spiritual teachers of India. This was their hobby, to test who is lying and who is not.
He actually spent 12 years in full time sadhana 24/7 at the Ramakrishna Mission and fundraised for them for decades. I don't think he has one picture of that time, because he was doing the work. Yet, now Baul and Ramakrishna is being remade in pictures as if you actually did the work. He is not there right now to qualify this fakery, but will be soon. Play acting as if you actually are qualified and did the work because mommy and daddy like Ramakrishna?
I am printing the name of Babu Kishan's mentor in his book, but will not here, because of the situation and the degree of fakery regarding Baul. The level has reached remaking every aspect of this lineages lived lives, beyond comprehension retracing and if you will like a dog peeing on every corner of their lived firsts and lasts regarding Baul, competing and marking a territory of these indigenous ancestral people. Changing the narratives to include themselves. Their Guru was jealous of Purna Das Baul and tried to murder him by poisoning him, just to give a hint of the past. You can not make this up, and it has gone on for too long.
She sing this lineages songs, uses Nabani only dance style 'Ektara baya nupoor' Baul women never had jata, and regarding Baul Nabani was the only one who had jata? Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style, they advertise the associations only lived by this lineage. 'Baul and Tantra', 'Baul and Gaudiya' Vaishnava, Baul and Ramakrishna, Baul and Rabindranth Tagore, 'Baul and Indian Cinema', 'Baul and teaching at Universities' and teaching Baul in Cultural programs around the world since the 1950's. They are not from this lineage, which is Das Baul and Dasi, the only Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Baul lineage.
People only learned about Baul through this indigenous ancestral lineage. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out or maybe today in the post truth era it does?
They are calling the over 90 year old Padma Shri, "Baul Samrat" Pandit Purna Baul Das a shilpi Baul which is outrageous is insidious. KD Babu Kishan has said, his father is the first and last Baul singer, he was the best Baul singer ever, but he knows deep down inside his father knows everything, he just does not show it. Baul does not reveal, this has left the door open to false narratives and speculations forever, there is a reason Baul does not reveal anything, and you are seeing the results of that with all the fakery. I have tried to reveal as much as a could, Babu Kishan has said, it is not a good idea, the fakes will come out of the woodwork, with woodwork.
It took me a long time to understand and that is exactly what has happened, it is shocking to me. Even though I have been a student of how cults work since the 1970's. I am not used to people lying, I have had to learn the hard way, which is still shocking to me, this is even more insidious to me because they are actors and act all innocent?
Now the truth must flow, it has gone too far. It is insane how they are using everything all the firsts and lasts as part of Baul history is insidious, and all can be proven and will be proven, qualified and spoken about.
This is cultural mis-appropriated a re-making through false associations, false narratives and it must be called out. It starts small and now is over the top. They are fake, it is an act, they are asking for donations and fundraising to preserve Baul when they are not indigenous to Baul, what are they going to do, copy everything from this lineage and remake it, oh they are already doing that. You can not make this up?
It should be known KD Babu Kishan has already preserved Baul over 60 years, that is how he knows who the poets are, who is Baul Guru and who is not? Sanatan Das Baul was not a Baul Guru he was not an oral Sanskritist, he was illiterate, Baul is never illiterate, he is a self-titled Baul who copied Nabani Das Baul style, songs and copied everything Purna Das Baul did, he was jealous of Purna Das Baul and tried to murder him through poisoning him. It is a long story and will be in Babu Kishan's 4th book on Baul.
There are not 20,000 Bauls in Birbhum India that is the biggest lie ever told by RC Roddam on a youtube video. We do not approve of hawker Bauls using Nabani Das Khyapa Baul lived history, or the calling of 91 year old Baul Samrat, Padma Shree 'Baul Samrat (Pandit) Purna Das Baul a 'shilpi Baul' or using his picture. How insidious, to act like you actually know, to act like you are an authority on Baul?
No you are not a Sri Sri? Ramachandra Roddam from south Indian who only drifted to Baul in 2012 now calls himself Sri Sri, acting like he is an authority on Ramakrishna and just about every spiritual aspect of India, it has become popular to call oneself a shakti upasaka, it is not too difficult to understand where some of his language comes from, he is the epitome of 'fake it til you make it'. Throwing it out there like he lived it all.
Can you imagine, making wild claims, name dropping and poaching stories about Nabani Das Khyapa Baul on his youtube channel the stories of Nabani only told by KD Babu Kishan? As if he actually knows the stories or who Nabani Das Khyapa Baul is? Nabani is KD Babu Kishan's grandfather and his Guru. The stories of Nabani are only told by Babu Kishan, yet arrogantly poached from this blog and Babu Kishan's website. We have ask nicely, do not poach, copyright over and over. Character matters. I have documented all the falsities over the years, you have no idea how protective I am when it comes to my husband of almost 20 years, absolutely no idea who I am and who I know.
What kind of character does this South Indian man have, it is not funny, it is not insightful, it is indigenous intellectual property theft.
Acting like he knows the stories of Bob Dylan and Baul in the west, making snide little suggestions?
And his Ma trying to be the new Nabani, Purna Das Baul and Babu Kishan all in one, because her whole shtick act is copied from this lineage, yet making false claims she is the first Baul Women who traveled the world, which is another bull shit lie as Manju Das who was Babu Kishan's mother was the first and the last Baul Women ever traveling from 1960's to 2010, she was legendary, however, the real authentic Baul Women are Brajabala Dasi and Radharani Dasi.
You guys have used Baul enough, are not Baul and certainly not the authority on this lineage and should stop using the indigenous intellectual property of this lineage, this is a subtle warning, we have been warning for years without using names, that time has passed it is over, it is too late.
The intellectual property of this lineage is not up for grabs, your character has been shown. Poaching is not a great character trait, indigenous intellectual property theft is not OK it actually is indigenous fraud. Regarding Baul and if saying they are from a Yoga Parampara is not accurate, this is a lie, they are not, and authentic Baul is not characterized that way, and characterizing Baul as Siddha Acharaya is completely wrong? So is Baul master, there is no such thing as Baul masters?
Baul has very specific nuances, very specific ways of describing who they are?
Baul is indigenous and ancestral and they have systematically rearranged Baul so that they fit in, watering down, and reducing Baul poaching everything this lineage has ever lived, names taken off, and stories corrupted to include their fake Baul Guru and Fake Baul lineage.
This will all be clarified, and qualified one by one.
The lies, yes it is a lie, when you are not Baul, but pretending to be a Baul, while stealing the intellectual property of this lineage. In the old days Baul was used and copied from this lineage, nothing was said, because it was believed most of these people were poor refugees and they used Baul to survive.
However, this is not what is happening today, Baul is used for fake social media fame, collecting of people, donations and dominance by using the intellectual property of the already firsts and last of this lineage, riding on the coattails of everything this lineage has done, trying to be Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, Purna Das Baul and yes, KD Babu Kishan, all is documented and will be presented, it is not by mistake, it is very intentional. This lineages Baul songs, style, dance, what this lineage has lived is being copied and reworked with false associations, this lineages lived history is not up for grabs, it is not up to be faked anymore, time has changed.
They are based on lies and copying everything from this lineage. The Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Bauls are ancestral, she has stated Bauls are not from ancestors or families, are you kidding, how do you think they got here, how do you think you were able to steal Nabani Das Khyapa Bauls dance style, his songs, on and on.
Oh yes I have documented each false narrative, because I noticed something going on almost 20 years ago. She said, Baul are from Turkey, Baul does not come from Turkey and there is not 4 types of Baul, they are spreading false narratives and have tried in every way, one way doesn't work they try another in true hawker style?
What is going on may not be obvious to the people who do not know what Baul is, but to the Baul it is obvious, the game is obvious of the Baba and Ma business is obvious.
Baul is not spreading false narratives, learning it as you go, it is not fake it til you make it? Baul is a rare ancient lineage based on ancestry, they are the ones who preserved Baul, not you. Baul is not up for grabs by every fake who wants to fundraise for a jackpot and collect people, using Baul in a mish-mash of stories stolen from this lineage, with attached false narratives. You don't learn it as you go, you do not get to make mistakes with a rare ancient indigenous lineage, it does not belong to you, it does not belong to your fake Guru who tried to murder Purna Das Baul.
Read part 1
https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/04/fake-pretendian-hawker-baul-critique.html
Mixing and matching whatever this lineage has already lived is insidious. You are using Baul, twisting the history, acting pretendian fake Bauls this is not ok. Baul and Tantra is only related to Nabani Das Khyapa Baul the last Baul Avadhuta who is the only Baul associated with Tarapith and Kankali Tala shakti peeths with his stories told only here on this blog and on Babu Kishan's website, they all of sudden claimed by this fake lineage?
This lineage only has been associated with Rabindranath Tagore, and their ancestor is Nityananda of Ekachakra Birbhum thus the only Das Baul and Dasi the only Vaishnava lineage of Baul. These stories have also, been name dropped by these 2 one from Assam you know that belt where there are no Bauls and South India where there are no Bauls? Bauls are only indigenous to Birbhum West Bengal India, and again this can all be proven if one knows anything about Baul, however, Baul has been used and abused only because this one and only lineage made Baul famous.
Das Baul and Dasi only come from this lineage, many fakes self-titled themselves as Das Baul and Dasi, they are not, in the case of Sanatan Das Baul, he is not a Das Baul, but a self-titled Das Baul it can be proven. He was not a Baul Guru, but used everything from this lineage, more on this later.
There is not another, you should not be using any of these names as part of your advertising campaigns and cease and desist from using the songs of this lineage. You are not related to this lineage, and are a known intellectual property thief. Nityanada Gosia Chand Das Baul and Dasi is a different lineage, they are the only lineage who only kept, and knew Baul stories and kept them alive, why do you feel so entitled to use someone else's ancestry?
Do you not have your own ancestry try using that instead of poaching everything from this lineage watering it down, and destroying the nuances, that you most certainly do not have a clue about. Who are your ancestors, what did they do, talk about them. We are not going to teach you because you are not to be trusted, just keep acting?
This lineage is Gosai Chand or Chandra Das Baul and Dasi.
There is no other lineage of Baul? Your fake Baul Guru or others are using Das Baul and Dasi have copied it from this lineage as they have copied all this lineage songs, kirtans, dance, instruments, style, stories where they went and what they did, now copying all their associations watering down and reducing Baul history to a drop, while hoping nobody will notice?
'Baul Bhakti & Kirtan only come from this lineage, as does Baul &Tantra, are only related to this one and only Baul lineage or Guru Shisya parampara sampradya, there is not another. This lineage should have spoken out decades ago, before this got way out of hand.
The pretendian fake Bauls are using and abusing the indigenous intellectual property of this lineage, this has been going on for a long time. KD Babu Kishan is protecting and clarify what no indigenous Baul has wanted to say or perhaps has been capable of saying. The indigenous Bauls has never wanted to be associated with the hawker Bauls, however, this fakery has not gone away, it has only gone viral because of social media and peoples lack of true understanding of who is Baul, leaving the door open for a virus of fakery.
The fake pretendian Baul actors are spreading misinformation and out right lies. I can only think trying to dupe people into joining them, actually asking people to come and join them, when Baul does not collect people? Very slowly if Baul doesn't work, they will try to be Anandamayi Ma who by the way was only associated with this lineage of Baul, not any other Bauls. This lineage was always guest singers who fundraised for Anandamayi Ma. Babu Kishan knew Anandamayi Ma and Sitaram Das Omkarnath who is tied to Anandamayi Ma.
Notice the name of the fake Bauls have added Maa to ther name, soon once Baul doesn't work anymore she will be Ma Parvathy? I have followed Cults sine the 1970's and KD Babu Kishan has qualified cult leader, fake Gurus since the 1960's he has a huge history and has developed a list of questions to ask? As a hobby he used to travel around India with a Supreme court Calcutta and Bombay judge as a practice of debate qualifying who is real and who is fake.
Oh of course, they have already said, come and join us, with the goal of collecting donations and the ultimate goal of fundraising to preserve Baul, when KD Babu Kishan has preserved Baul for over 60 years? What are you going to do, steal more of the intellectual property of this lineage and water down Baul more with fake stories and false narratives, platitudes of poaching and acting.
The thing that makes Baul unique is that they never collect people. As Roddam said on one video, come and join us?
A authentic Baul naturally attracts in a natural and spontaneous way, they never say come join us?
Baul is on its last legs, because of fakery, watering down, and reductionism by Baul actors (shilpi Bauls) 'you' and they dare to call Baul Samarat (Padma Shree) a shilpi Baul with no shame, just pure arrogance and matter of fact, well here I go.
No matter how Babu Kishan feels about his father, he will always love him and he is from this lineage, he is the son of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and knows more than you will ever know, he just doesn't teach it to people like you, he hold Baul closely as does Babu Kishan, so many nuances of Baul are never know by the fakes and this is so evident, because they are twisting Baul, changing the names, and they do not have the character, they can act it out, but it is evident they do not have the character of authentic Baul.
They are actors Pretending, they are holier than thou, oh and she is Saint, a Baul Avadhut, give me a break, character, character tells you who someone is? Baul is on its last legs, because of Parvathy B (that woman) and people like her. The very person who is now trying to fundraise to preserve Baul, when she has completely appropriated this lineage but without the essence and nuances, those she will never get, unless she poaches them from our book, it hasn't stopped her in the past. Now is the time to tell the truth, I don't care if she has a thousand likes, if you think she is authentic because she has many followers on fb, Babu Kishan always says to me in his Baul way, prostitutes have more, I know that sound crude, he says it means nothing, she can have millions of people it means nothing if you do not have character.
Time rules, but love wins. by Babu Kishan, this is his old saying.
Let everybody have their time, character will create karma and they will have to live their karma.
You have things or not the main thing is Kali Ma and Krishna/Radha are with you.
1st tenant - of Baul, Satya, tell the truth at all costs.
2nd tenant - of Baul be none stealing, that includes stealing the intellectual property of others and this lineage of ancestral indigenous Bauls, their songs, style, dance, instruments, where they go, what they have done?
' That women' who is claiming that people think Baul songs are Folk songs, lol in the past she advertised herself as a Folk Singer? At the same time that Babu Kishan was talking about folk music, because he is a expert, academically and because he has compose music for the biggest Folk Singers of Bengal and in Indian Cinema, the biggest Folk singers of India. He has categorized all the folk music of India for all the big recording companies of Bombay. He is a folk hero, but that has nothing to do with Baul. Perhaps she though oh that is a good thing to add to her repertoire, just as she has added everything else from this lineage and Babu Kishan's life.
The only thing he lived it, he was a monk in the Ramakrishna mission for 12 years 24/7 in sadhana and learning. There is a big difference in reading book and mommy and daddy were devotee's, how on earth does that association come through when you are using the ancestry of this lineage and family but that your mommy and daddy exposed you to Ramakrishna all of sudden mean you are associated with Ramakrishna.
Babu Kishan is the only Baul associated with Ramakrishna Mission that is part of this lineages Baul history, and what about Indian Cinema, and Babu Kishan's career teaching at Universities, as his wife it is so obvious, stop copying my husbands like trying to make lose associations as if you actually did the work. This really anger me and it is so obvious, get lost, stop poaching his songs. People need to know all this, they need to know your real character, not just your acting innocent act.
However, in the end he is the only expert on Baul songs and Baul kirtans, because he recorded them all and categorized them all, he worked with all the old Bauls, spiritual Gurus and folk singers across India, he is the expert on Indian music and knows who is good and who is not.
Baul is only going extinct, because of people like you (fake pretendian hunter Bauls) who steal the intellectual property of this lineage and where you can.
LOL I listened to the video 'Baul and Tantra' what a mishmash of playing authority so slanted there are no nuances about Baul Tantra and historical Baul Tantra, this is a travel info commercial a touching on every as many aspects of Bengal and as many spiritual traditions to show how qualifed this person is not. Listen I will tell you, there is authentic lived Baul history and there is fake made up trying to be this what this lineage has lived. This is what is going on with these 2 they are trying to be everything this lineage has already accomplished as lived Baul history. They do not know any of the nuances of Baul, it is an act. The gaul to say, Purna Das Baul is a shilipi Baul, is a back handed back slap, unbelievable and how dare you.
You have no right to even talk about Purna Das Baul, your so-called, self-titled Guru tried to murder Purna Das Baul. This story has to be everywhere and Babu Kishan has way more stories where that came from about your Guru. You do know that Babu Kishan knew Sanatan (Das Baul)? You can fool some of the people for a time but, you have gone over the line.
After poaching from this blog, and this lineages songs, dress and Nabani Das Khyapa Baul songs and style you are banned from using any intellectual property or songs from this lineage.
You didn't serious think what she is presenting has not been poached from this lineage did you?
The songs "that women" has already poached will have to be accounted for, because we can not allow this use anymore. We are going public to tell the truth.
Get ready that is all I can say.
Do not use Baul, because you are not a Baul and have misused Baul for a long time now.
You are using Baul to make money, you do not have any Baul essence or even know the nuances of Baul. Baul is failing, because you are stealing the intellectual property of this lineage and reworking it, watering it down, reducing the intellectual indigenous property, as an indigenous intellectual theft, and indigenous Fraud.
Baul is not failing, because this lineage brought Baul to all of India, and worldwide. You are twisting narratives without knowing the history of Baul, you take bits and pieces and have created a smear campaign against all the work of Babu Kishan, Purna Das Baul and Nabani Das Khyapa Baul have already completed as Baul history. They did not create a platform for Baul so that you could destroy it, or use for your hawker business. It is all acting.
Nobody can be as perfectly syrupy acting humbler than thought as these fakes, the comments that are left on their videos are always the same, such love and devotion.
Baul was always a bit contradictory, paradoxical, truth talking at all costs?
Today Baul is all marketing, who can tell the taller tail, and look like the authority on Baul. The fake Guru business of which Babu Kishan has watched for decades all over India, and has qualified these people, he knows the techniques to do so, the questions to ask and he will be doing this in the near future, there must be debate and someone who actually knows what is going on to speak out.
Bauls pushed the limit on reality, conservatism and on rhetoric, they never lied fake or liars and had their techniques to call them out.
Bauls were honest at all costs, they are full of metaphor, paradox, riddle, and allegory, they only associated with the top intellects and always did seva to the villagers of Birbhum.
No seva no Baul, not getting other to do seva (service) for you, getting them to touch your feet and exalt you? That is the opposite of Baul. Just a little hint when someone calls you a Saint, never believe them, there is a reason for that, either you are being tested or they want something for you, you may be good business for them. If you are any kind of tantric that is the sign to run as fast as yo can. The character of people is important.
Bauls are the greatest of intellects and philosophers, it has been watered down to the dust of garbage of false narratives by hawkers who want Sri Sri exhaled Maa and Baba status, they want to fundraise to preserve Baul when Baul has already been preserved by Krishnendu Das Baul aka Babu Kishan or 60 years.
A Baul never wants blind followers to worship them, or touch their feet demanding respect as Baba or maa which is a get rich quick scheme or fake it til you make it, while riding on the coattails of this lineage?
What is going on is pure bull shit, there is no other way to say it.
These grifters want you to be stupid, they want you think they are the saviours of Baul, going to do what Vivekananda did, that time is over. Baul has been in America almost full time since the 1960's. Baul lives her now, it is just Baul does not work that way, Baul is different from what is propogated as Baul today,
They are 100% the reason for the destruction of Baul, not folk music, not because Bauls love music, but because of the fake pretendian hawker Bauls who have sold out Baul which never belonged to them.
Baul is going extinct because of the fake pretendian hawkers who are not even Baul. They are not indigenous to Baul, they have marginalized Baul and killed Baul. Bauls are an energetic fire and now a meow, look how humble and sweet I am, meow, a giggle stupid smiley group.
If you are truly concerned cut that jata off your head that is a gimmick a type of spiritual materialism, one of my Guru's had huge long dread locks, he cut them off and called it laughing it was a way to attract people, he said it was time for him to come clean. You are using your hair to attract people? Not all people spiritual people with jata need to that, they usually live separate from society and don't travel out of their zone, some Naths have them and are seriously sadhaka's usually not looking to collect people or fb book fame. I would say in your case it is a case of using your jata as a gimmick to attract.
And when you do that, top stealing and poaching the songs from this lineage, stop dancing and copying Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style of dance and instruments? Stop manipulating stories.
Babu Kishan has been teaching at Universities around the world and doing Cultural Programs as a representative of India through ICCR and Sangeet Natak Academi since the early 1970's even today he still does cultural programs time permitting. The west does not need any more fake Guru Baba and Ma wanna be's?
It was Purna Das Baul and Laxshman Das who sang for Bhaktivendanta Prabhupada in 1967 in Central Park.
Prabhupada knew this family, he knew Babu Kishan grandfathers Nabani Das Khapa Baul and Jogesh Dash who was a professor of Sanskrit from Dhaka University. This lineage and Gaudiya Math were tied together though this lineages ancestor Nita or Nityananda of Ekachakra Birbhum We Bengal where all the ancestors of this lineages bone are. This lineage has fundraised for Gaudiya Math for hundreds of year. The Vaishnava Sahajiya Bauls of Birbhum are indigenous to the soul and soil of Birbhum. An indigenous Baul can only self-determine who is Baul.
Baul is (vayu tula) Baul was never called 'siddha acharya's' or Baul Master. Why, do you feel you can altar what Baul is?
This lineage of Baul is Gosia Chand Das Baul and Dasi and is only this lineage that of Nityanada of Ekachakra. Lineage assumes ancestral as in 13 generations going back to Nityananda of Ekachakra. Today, no other Bauls are related to this one and only lineage. Certainly not Parvathy and her Rodham.
The dis-information and cherry picking by these too is banned from this blog, or any of our material, including all the songs, which you have stolen many. She (that women) looks innocent and speaks softly but that is an act. Time is up, we have no association with them and their false narratives.
Please stop stealing the intellectual property of this lineage and making up lies.
'That women' is still teaching false teachings that there are 4 types of Baul Aul Sai Dervish Fakir?
These are Islamic terms, another incorrect wrong teaching, it was copied from 'BabuKishan.com' in the early somewhere up until 2006 and later written from his old website notes in Calcutta copied and pasted by Silina who wrote Baul Philosophy copy and pasting Babu Kishan notes without his permission into the book Baul Philosophy, you know the book you copied the title of every chapter as to what you were going to teach in a workshop? That is beyond bizarre, yup I caught and documented that one.
BabuKishan.com was the firs Baul website everybody copied from it is where the fake Baul such as this one first learned about Baul, unfortunately Babu Kishan lost that website in 2006, due to the death of his webmaster Mary Johnson. There are 4 types of Baul was added incorrectly, because everybody copied everything from Babu Kishan's website at the time it spread far and wide, all Bauls copied without any discrimination'. Obviously Parvathy Baul didn't get the message, she is repeating false narrative over and over, this is not accurate? She is trying to put every wandering person from Bengal under the Baul umbrella, as she has read in books. Honestly, she changes faster than anything I have seen, or documented over 2 decades.
I think we need to put more fake implants in our Baul, this way we can identify who is copying and who is not, I think that is a good idea to sift out the grifters.
Only this lineage made Baul popular, BabuKishan's 4th book will explain accurately 'Baul history'. He has been teaching Baul all over the world since the 1967's in cultural programs, at universities, temples, yoga studio's, community halls.
They did not just sing songs and Babu Kishan who is expert in all of Indian music as a accomplished award winning Indian Music Composer knows the difference between Baul, Bhajan, Kirtan and all of the spiritual music of India, he know who can sing and who can not sing correctly, who are the Baul poets and where the music came from, who is poaching what songs. Do not play over smart with him because he knows every song you have poached, he is the only expert left.
Folk songs have no destroyed Baul, fake pretendian hawkster Baul have, people faking Baul and teaching the wrong narratives have, hmm that looks like you. Don't blame the hippies of the west, all the fake Bauls sit around like daddy cool smoking marijuana today, however, I am sure you know this because you are acting like you know everything. I wrote about this in a book, stop acting.
We understand that Baul songs and Kirtans are not Folk Songs. The Ektara foundation is about Baul songs and kirtans because that is Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu indigenous ancestral ancient Cultural Lineage.
He has preserved his lineages songs, Kirtans, practices for over 60 years, that is his legacy and his spiritual base and he is the only authority of that.
He, however, is a accomplished inborn and trained the highest level Music Composer, lyricist, Music producer and an Indian Music Composer of all of Indian Music. I waste so much time qualifying only because, today every body is a Music Composer, it seems every Baul is now a Music Composer and even has IMBD listings. Indian Cinema and Bollywood as far as Baul goes is only related to Babu Kishan his Indian Cinema name, in Bengal his birth name is Krishnendu Das Baul.
He categorized all of the Folk Music of India for the largest Music Companies of India. He has been composer music for folk singers in Bengal from age 11.
He knows the difference between Folk Music and Baul Music, he has been an expert on this matter.
I was just watching "that women's' interview on Namarasa youtube, what she is saying is completely wrong.
'Baul and Gaudiya Math' is only tied together through this indigenous lineage and their ancestors, it has nothing to do with Parvathy and her fake sampradaya.
That women looks sweet but I am an expert at reading people, 'that women is an actor', what she is saying is not accurate, this leads to reductionism and the water down of lineage ancestral Baul and the truth of these association.
The first point of Baul is to tell the truth, Satya, never lie, if you fail that, you fall, you are not a Baul. Baul is not an acting job?
There are (not) many different schools of Baul, there is only one story, one lineage, only one indigenous ancestral family who fundraised and were respected by Gaudiya Math.
This lineage was tied to Gaudiya Math, respected by Gaudiya Math and part of their ancestor are Gaudiya Math, related to Nityananda of Ekachakra, the NEW book will explain. This lineage only remained and are closely tied to Gaudiya Math for hundreds of years.
This is lineage is a one and only Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Baul (Vayu Tula) V is B in Bengali, thus instead of Vaul they say Baul, there are deeper teaching in this lineage or guru shishy parampara sampradaya. No non-indigenous random generic actors should fake or talk garbage 'that women' is talking like there are many of these sampradaya's there are not. That is a lie and the lies continue.
Regarding Baul there is only one lineage or guru shishya parampara sampradaya and 'that women' is not from this sampradaya or yoga parampara, her Guru was not either, he actually tried to poison Purna Das Baul to death at Monhar Kepa's ashram in Kenduli during the Joy Dev Mela in the 1970's he was jealous and copied everything from Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and Purna Das Baul.
He was to be arrested but out of compassion Babu Kishan's mother said, let him go, he is so poor, he was a cigarette seller. It is true who you associate with you become. Here we have a fake Guru who stole the intellectual property from this lineage and copied everything from this lineage and tried to kill Purna Das Baul out of jealousy and we have a so called shisya who does the exact same thing steals the intellectual property from this lineage and fakes Baul. That women' say she met her Goshai Guru and spent three days with him before he died and he gave her every song, that was before. Now (that women) is saying she spent 3 years with him?
I will never trust anything she says, I have documented everything all the things "that women" has said since 2008 she is all over the map I am not talking travel wise, she changes her stories all the time. Why, hasn't anybody qualified 'that Women' through Purva Paksha. Don't tell me that the younger generation has no intellect or discernment? Where have the Indian and Western brains gone, do you just believes anything you are told? Life today on youtube is stranger than fiction.
Anyhow, Nityananda of Ekachakra Birbhum Bengal a Vaishnava Sahajiya (not buddhist as she say) but 'Krishna Sahaja who is the biggest Sahaja ever" and 'Dattatreya Sahaja) who is trimurti Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma and was Ram's teacher.
What is wrong with people, Krishna is way older than Buddhism, this lineage has been indigenous ancestral Vaishnava way before Gaudiya Vaishnavism of the 15th century and the follow Nityananda, they love Sri Chaitanya, but follow Nityananda these stories are held in the oral tradition and will be released when the book is released later this year. We have to protect our information because of hawker Bauls? Everything, is and will be copyrighted and we will go to court if we have to, to reclaim our Baul songs and kirtans?
No random fake hawker Bauls have ever used the term or called themselves a Baul Avadhut, Nabani was the last Baul Avadhut what the heck is going on? I see 'that women' is now calling herself an Baul Avadhuta that is impossible, that is a bold-faced lie? There is no such things as a Baul Master either, you have no adhikara or right to self-determine who is Baul or what to call anything regarding you, you have stepped way over the line. Same with Rodham calling Purna Das Baul a shilpi Baul are you kidding me, what an insult, you call the Baul Samrat a shilpi and you are new to Baul? There is something here to really pay attention to, I am serious, you learn a lot when you look at peoples character and if you can face read watch these 2 they are great actors.
I know a guy who used to know me on facebook, read all my writings about Nabani Das Khyapa Baul went to see "that women' in California and called her a Baul Avadhut, did she take this serious, is this where she started to call herself a Baul Avadhut, it certainly could not be California where she first learned about marijuana, as all her brother fake Bauls sit in the Akhara smoking ganja all the time?
Insanity, this is just one of many stories and copying of intellectual property from this lineage, their songs, style, dance, dress, where they go and what they already have done as part of already lived Baul history. Wake up people dig deeper, just because someone has dread lock and acts sweet and innocent does not mean they are. Character is shown by actions, not by the telling of how respected you are and being promoted as this and that, while you are cherry picking from this blog and twisting it.
Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Bauls of Birbhum, Nityananda (Nitai) is a direct ancestor of only this lineage of Bauls, all the ancestors were born in Ekachakra Birbhum. 'That women' is not part of this lineage or parmpara, she has nothing to do with this lineage, and should cease and desist from pretending and using the ancestors or the songs, stories from this lineage and actually I do not appreciate you are partner trying to be my husband, trying to do whatever he has already done, going where he has gone, stealing his songs off youtube or stealing his intellectual property, you are just dust compared to his accomplishments, you have tracked every corner of his life.
This blog, there lived history and any information only pertains to this lineage which is Gosia Chand, Das Baul and Dasi. Because they made Baul famous, many random wandering people started to call themselves Das Baul and Dasi including (that women's) Guru, who is not from this lineage, but copied Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and was so jealous of Purna Das Baul and thus copied every song, Nabani style on and on. He is not a lineage Baul and I have no idea why Parvathy continues to preach she is? Oh yah, he even copied the path-work dress designed by Babu Kishan.
Baul Avadhut is very rare, anybody calling or claiming this title today is lying, how messed up is that, are you that desparate.
Nabani Das Khyapa Baul was the last Baul Avadhut he passed in 1969 of this lineage which is the only Guru Shishya Parmapara Sampradaya. Their ancestor Nityananda was a Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Baul Avadhut, then Kepa Chand Baul. Not all Bauls are Avadhutas, most are very devote Vaishnava who speak oral Sanskrit with manuscripts. Babu Kishan's grandmother Brajabala Dasi was a decendant of the Norottama Das line could recite the whole Bhagavad Gita in Sanskrit and tell all the stories of Mahabharat and Ramayan to Babu Kishan as she raised him til he was 8 years of age, these Vaishnava Bauls are authentically sweet, they never lie, they lived very simple lives of the sweetest sahaja innocence.
Parvathy is lying or I guess I could say cheating, claiming these titles Baul Avadhut, Baul, Baul Master and Sampradaya. She is trying to make Baul random and generic, as if everybody in Bengal was a Baul, this is not so. What the two of them are doing is insidious.
I can't give away too much here, everything she basically is saying is an act.
Did she ever fundraise for Gaudiya Math for decades, did they ever fundraise for the Ramakrishna Mission, no they just take and never give, they take what this lineage has already accomplished and mark their territory, remaking this lineage, and stealing the intellectual property of this lineage trying to mark their territory, like dogs do. We love dogs by the way!
If people come to "that Women or Rodham' to learn Baul they are being led astray, they are not Baul. It seriously is bull shit? I have to use strong language, I know be sweet, but sometimes sweet means to cheat.
I have been a long time avid student of Vaishnavism in the west of both Gaudiya Math and Iskcon. I have spent 18 years learning from Krishnendu Das Baul aka Babu Kishan. I received my first Bhagavad Gita in 1974.
I studied 24/7 under Jeffrey Armstrong, a brilliant Vaishnava Vedic and Tantric Scholar and Sadhaka. I met him in 1997 and sat at his feet for almost a decade, he introduced me to Vaishnava from Bengal. I am forever thankful to him, he inspired me to apply myself in the deeper study of Jyotish 'Vedic Astrology', Vedanta, Yoga, Ayurveda, Bhagavad Gita, Mahabharata and Ramayana and Martial Arts.
Jeffrey had been a student of these profound subject since 1965 and he is still going strong. This helped me understand Babu Kishan who has always had close friendship with Gaudiya Math & Iskcon in the west including George Harrison of the Beatles.
Babu Kishan and his family were constant fundraisers for both as his father always sang as fundraising events for many, while Babu Kishan played the Sri Khol and lectured.
Babu Kishan has been teaching Vaishnava Sahajiya Baul, Tantra Mantra Gopi Yantra, Indian Philosophy and Indian Music since the 1970's in the west and worldwide. I have no idea what "that women and Rodham are talking about saying in the west it only has been about music, no it has not! Stop your lying, you are not going to save us westerners, just stop yourself promotion and save you own soul, go and practice, stop lying and using Baul because once Babu Kishan get started you will be dust. He has spent a lifetime qualifying who is real and who is fake.
Just, because he is an accomplished Indian Musician does not mean that is all he has done, he also, is an oral Sanskritist and a Classical Sanskritist who composed poetry and music in Sanskrit and has for some of the top Music Composer in India such as Ravindra Jain. 12 years at the Ramakrishna Mission and has done huge fundraising for the Ramakrishna Mission.
These too Rodham and 'that Women' are trying to be Baba and Maa spreading false information, lying and trying to collect people. They want to be in the Baba and Maa business, it is embarrassing and the comments left on the youtube mindless.
I was a long time friend of the late Vrindavan Today's founder editor Jagadananda Das (Jagat). He was a prolific researcher blogger and writer of Gaudiya Vaishnavism and was an X Iscon research the subtler points of Bengali Vaishnava since the 1960's he lived in Vrindavan India for decades. Jagat had a love and affinity with Baul Sahajiya Baul and Gaudiya Vaishnavism I had many many private conversations on the subtle points of Vaishnava Baul Sahajiya and this one and only lineage. Babu Kishan's grandmother Brajabali Dasi was eternally tied to the Norottam Das lineage of Vaishnava poets and scholar and Nabani Das Khyapa Baul is eternally tied to Vaishnavism through Nityananda Gosia Chand of Ekachakra Birbhum, W Bengal. All the Gosia's aka (Gosian, Goswami) of Bengal and Vrindavan used to visit Brajabala.
As much as people like Jagat know and he realized a lot, they are missing the nuances and the inner truth of what is Baul, Babu Kishan is a born oral Sanskrit with a photographic memory, I was born with a photographic memory and ruthless desire for the truth, not random truth presented as truth but impeccable truth, not a version of truth twisted into a cult. There is no replacing the actual truth of who and what Baul is by any random shilpi non-indigenous fake Bauls. Baul is not a game of jackpot fundraising and it not be in the hands of random people picking the bones of this lineages ancestor.
Krishnendu Das Baul from birth is to preserve Baul, his grandparents Guru's Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and Brajabala Dasi gave him that task, has it been easy absolutely not, when one is a born Tara Ma sadhaka or upasaka in the burning grounds with Nabani ones life is not going to be fun and games, you will live many lives in one life.
There is much to explain here, nothing to be assumed, this lineage is always Radha and Krishna first they live in their hearts but if one has a rare Baul Avadhut as as Guru as Krishnendu Das Baul aka Babu Kishan has Tara Ma, Kali Ma and the Mahavidya's will be there also. However, only this one and only lineage, there is a misconception thinking this history belongs to all pretendian fake Bauls, it does not, many hung outside of these shakti peeths trying to be Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and today fake random Baul are using it as an attraction for tourists, trying to hook more people into their ashram as a way of business.
These 2 must stop making loose associations, the nuances are completely missing, the essence is washed clean of any authority on the topic.
If you mention 'Baul and Gaudiya' or Baul and Tantra" the only Baul to speak to is Babu Kishan as he lived it from birth and was on the board of Tarapith for decades. Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das is the only authority he is the real last Baul who lived it all with the authentic celebrated last Baul Nabani Das khyapa Baul and his father Purna Das Baul.
These 2 are window dressing, I could tell you what is wrong and how they have it completely wrong, the only problem is they will take and use it as if they are the ones that knew. Talking about 'Gaudyia Math and the Bauls' is useless unless you tell the real history of this association with this lineage. However, they don't, you can not make, the association of Baul and Gaudiya Vaishnavism random and generic, so that you can lay claim to all the work and associations of this lineage.
Do you think we are stupid, the answer is obviously yes? Do you think others are stupid?
The only way you can talk about this is by talking about this lineage. However, you do not have permission to talk or tell any of this lineage stories, because you have poached this lineage of their intellectual property? Tell me is that Vaishnava? Absolutely not, Vaishnava is humbler than a blade of grass, but true humility means truth talking and non-stealing.
You are Banned from this lineage of Baul, you are not our friends. Babu Kishan does not want to even hear your names, and he didn't want me to write this, because or want your names on our blog.
This is all my doing, because I have watched this intellectual indigenous property theft for decades now.
For example;
1. Baul does not come from families, not the truth.
Baul is first and foremost indigenous, do you even understand what that means. Baul is different from, oh I just want to become a yogi and run away into the Himalayas where you meet a Guru and well you know there are a million stories, it is a different story from the Juna Akara where these people follow a different path of individual away from the family, even if a Baul joins the Juna Akara they still will have a family somewhere a long the line. Anyhow, I can't teach Baul here, that is not the purpose and actually that is the birth right and ancestral destiny of his lineage. I have allowed myself to give too much information out.
This blog has always announced 'copyright' I added, no poaching when I discovered that Rodham on an older youtube video, had poached and was telling Babu Kishan's stories about Nabani Das Khyapa Baul as if he knew, with giving no, credit, he alluded that he knew the story of Bob Dylan and the Bauls, as if he knew, showing the character of these 2 and their self-promotion without any shame. He acted like he an expert on Bob Dylan ect,. Most people would not catch any of this becasue they know it is the blind leading the blind and the younger generation just believes if a person looks authentic and has gathered all sorts of pictures with others, they are the real thing?
Babu Kishan can address all this better than I ever could.
No name dropping, cherry picking, poaching songs or the intellectual property of from this lineages. They are trying to suggest that the Bauls that came to the west before, never taught anything, they only sang folk songs and promoted folk songs, that all they did was play Baul music, it was all about Baul music, this is 100% wrong and a lie. Not the truth.
That is exactly what the person talking has done, Babu Kishan has taught at Universities and given Master classes on Baul since the 1970's, because he is educated with a Master Degree BA and MA with 12 years at the Ramakrishna Mission because he was a representative of the government of India through ICCR and Sangeet Natak Akademi? He is the author of 3 books on Baul, now out of print, he is the first and last as a part of this Baul history.
Then in another video Ramchandra Rodham who now calls himself Sri Sri Ramachandra which is a change, trying to elevate himself to an expert, demanding respect, as if he is a spiritual Guru. Keep your eye on these 2 they morph and change their narratives all the time. He is elevating his sense of self-importance, while sensationalizing and poaching Baul from this lineage.
One by one twisting Baul slightly to make it more attractive to the people, it is so obvious the intent is to collect people, already stating, come and join us? Baul never ever collects people.
Authentic Bauls sole purpose is Seva to the villagers, have you healed anybody lately, have you fundraised for other, or just for yourself.
When I think how Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and his ancestors gave up their lives, to attend to the villagers, feeding them, healing them, the women Bauls were mid-wives. The Bauls taught the villager, and they never went door to door as "that women" states. Here whole statement is a testament to the false narratives pushed and the nuances that she has not got a clue about. The whole thing is a show, a show by 2 actors, who are destroying the essence of Baul they know you don't know so they can say anything and you will go oh wow, she is so humble, yes when you are an actor you can dupe anybody. It is sad and this must stop, it is inauthentic and an overstep.
I see this insanity of poaching Baul I cringe and you should too.
No the west does not need any fake Bauls. People here are worn out by cults, nobody here needs a new Vivekananda some random middle class middle class girl, now a women, who did not attend the RamaKrishna Mission, did not have a authentic Baul Guru and has changed trying to grab all of Baul, this could be a case study of a new cult in the making.
However, now uses the Ramakrishna mission of part of her marketing promotions, same as she did with Universities and Indian Cinema, including her award obtained for representing Baul, which should only have gone to indigenous Baul as she is from a regular middle class family. This is more like a Master class in tricking people that one is authentic when they are not even that, a master class in social media fake fame.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13890392/
The lack of intellect, discernment, of not this and not that, the lack of research into the subject of the youger generation regarding spirituality, the lack of nuances and people who know how to qualify what is real and what is fake is astounding. Never fall prey to charisma, there has to be experience and an authentic Guru, teacher or Master is an expert not one who acts humble.
Bauls had a deep intellectual mind, their genius was inborn through their ancestry of Vaishnava Sahajiya poets, and oral Sanskritist with manuscripts. They were the ancestors of Nityananda of Ekachakra connected to the land there, the soul and soil of the land which is indigenous to this lineage. Only Babu Kishan born Krishnendu Das Baul can tell the story, I have only given hints, and all those hints have been poached. Tell me is that Vaishnava? Think critically, don't think emotionally of what you see or exotic looking costumes and platitudes of generalizations touching on every aspect that this lineage has lived?
Baul is very personal to Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul, he is a Pandit regarding Vaishnava Sahajiya, Baul Tantra Mantra Gopi Yantra, Sanskrit, Indian Philosophy and all of Indian Music. He is not self-titled and he has been teaching Baul worldwide and in India since the 1970's as a qualified teacher in every way, he is not self-titled. He is not an actor. His Guru is Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and Brajabala Dasi who is from the Norottama Das family, she is an oral Sanskrit-ist and knew all the stories off by heart and knew Vrindavan like the back of her hand, there are stories about her in Babu Kishan's book that will be released sometime this year, that is when you will hear more about all this.
People need to learn the questions to ask, instead of just gushing on a emotional level. This is the most important issue of our time, discernment and knowing what is fake and what is not.
https://indiafolkheritageofbengal.weebly.com/cultural-misappropriation.html
https://indiafolkheritageofbengal.weebly.com/lineage-baul-of-birbhum.html
What a sham, there may be a drop of heart there but not enough to stop her from stealing the intellectual property of this lineage and Babu Kishan grandfathers style, song Kicchu din mone mone? Right off of Babu Kishan's youtube channel without permission in 2009, where is the consciousness?
https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2022/07/kichhu-din-mone-mone-by-nabani-das.html
'That women' say's her Guru Sanatan Das Baul (not a das baul) but a self-titled das Baul) somewhere along the line said, books were useless, yet all her side kick Rodham does is read books, and Parvathy has been known steal the intellectual property from this lineage even when something is not correct. Sanatan Das Baul was illiterate, Baul is never illiterate, we will break this down one by one.
# 1. Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul is a music composer, no not just one of those who say they are, he is a inborn Music Composer who is qualified with a Masters degree in Indian Music from Calcutta University, He has spent 40 years as a Music Composer in Indian Cinema with a huge body of successful and award winning music in Sanskrit, Bengali, Hindu, and a multitude of other languages. He has composed over 80% of his fathers Purna Das Bauls most famous Baul music. Yes, the song that these fake Bauls steal.
#2. Babu Kishan as an expert on Folk Music has categorized all of the Folk Music of India for the biggest Music Companies in India.
# 3. He has composed music for and recored Folk Music of Bengal for the biggest Folk Music singers of his time,
#4. He knows his Baul Music and his Baul Poetry inside out and backwards. He has composed for a huge number of temples and Guru's through out India including writing lyrics, poetry ect... and knows what is Baul, Folk, Bhajan, and all spiritual music of India.
So for this video to come out now by Parvathy saying Baul songs are not Folk songs, is laughable, she is not a Music Composer, she doesn't even know who the poets are, she said Bauls don't care, why Parvathy so you could steal the poetry? She sings most songs from this lineage and doesn't even know, that she has too has sung folk songs.
'That women' has advertised herself as a Folk singer, I have it in my files? What on earth is going on in Bengal, do they believe any of what she says, is it to fundraise in the name of Baul? So the Folk songs didn't work, the Buddhist part didn't work and then Lalon, they even tried Bollywood I guess that didn't work, now Ramakrishna, Vivekananda, Gaudiya math, first Radha, Tara Ma and now Krishna?
Babu Kishan has not gone anywhere, he is still alive and watching the Baul tradition, it is his passion and be dammed if he is going to let this go on any longer.
Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das is the expert, while Parvathy is a newbie, novice on the path along with her Sri Sri a beginner trying to usurp and be the first Baul in America, give me a break, what an insult. Trying everything, throwing it at the wall, will it stick, what is next, including trying to associate with Indian Cinema?
Next she will call herself a Music Composer. You and Rodham are banned from misappropriating anything from this blog or lineage. You want to be Purna Das Baul just like your Guru did, you want to be Nabani Das Khyapa Baul just like your Guru did, you want to be Babu Kishan too, by copying everything he has done and everywhere he has gone. I am sorry I am a warrior and a martial artist and the shakti of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul's grandson who has been preserving Baul for over 60 years. I will never forget and do do you honestly think Babu Kishan ever forgets, no he has a photographic memory.
Who is Baul, is in Bengali documentary with subtitles.
It is a more realistic view of where Baul is at today, not a fabricated fantasy info commercial a prelude to Vivekanada and the second coming of Christ as a Baul to America when Baul has been in America for decades?
This screams a new cult. North America is burnt out of the cult mentality, but there still is a pathetic amount of ignorant people they can dupe.
I didn't want to critique or use the name the fake (pretendian) hawker Bauls, however, if people think what is going on is Baul you need to know it is not. This Rodham guy touches on everything I have already written on this blog and throughout my websites. He draws this picture of Baul that was lived a long time ago and is part of lived Baul history. Baul is already in the west it has been here since 1967. By the way the only way you know about Baul is through this one and only lineage of Baul that was copied by your so called Baul Guru. The only thing to do is call it what it is, acting and fakery at its best.
You feel entitled to so confidently call Purna Das Baul a shilpi Baul, no he is a Baul Samarat a Baul pandit Padma Shree, he is Nabani Das Khyapa Bauls son and has seen more, not only that he has seen and lived more than you have. He is in his 90's have alot of repect for him because you would not know about Baul without him, your Guru who was a cigarette seller would not have had any songs, or style to copy and steal. Lets look at who you are, and who your so called Baul Master and her Guru really are?
She appropriated Baul from this lineage, the fact is she appropriated the song Kichu Din Mone Mone. This is a Baul song from this lineage that has been appropriated! It is Nabani Das Khyapa Baul poetry, this Baul kirtan was stolen off Babu Kishan's youtube channel in 2009, she listened to over and over so many times even Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul by birth noticed it? Of course it is popular it belongs to Nabani Das Khyapa Baul who was well known. Cease and desist because we are working on a plan to recover the intellectual property that has been taken without permission from this lineage, it will be a long court case, however, it is a must to send a message to all marginalized indigenous people that stealing the intellectual property of indigenous people is not ok, it is not ok.
Babu Kishan said to me, what is going on with my youtube "that women" has listened to this song over and over and over, we the analytics to proven.
She gave the name Roshik as the poet, even though it is not Roshik is a nickname of someone else from this lineage? Other people have re-recorded this song and other Baul songs from this lineage, but this in particular has been a disturbing blatant intellectual property theft.
If "that women' was not such a fake Baul who created a fake lineage while using the intellectual property of this lineage we would not care. But is unbelievable how the lies slip out as they do, how she reduces Baul to fit her limited understanding and how it is all about come and join us.
Stop making Baul generic and duping people. I have documented it all since we saw this blatant appropriation. I have documented when you took all the chapter titles from Purna Das Bauls book titled Baul Philosophy, and listed all the titles of the Chapters as to what you were going to teach in a workshop?
I have documented the time you said, Baul is from Turkey.
Baul is not from families, oh really, do you even understand what indigenous means?
Then 20 years ago, I met Babu Kishan and from listening to him 24/7 I realized he was trained in Mimamsa Philosophy, purva paksha, debate and had met a mentor of his a Supreme Court Judge of Calcutta and Bombay whom he traveled and was friends with since age 8 they would travel around Indian testing so-called, self-titled experts aka Gurus, Tantrics, Yogis to see if they were authentic, they knew that questions to ask, this was their practice as a hobby. This is a book unto itself.
Disregard for traditional spiritual practices ownership of their songs, dance, style, kirtans, where they go and what they, is the disregard for indigenous ancestral people who have preserved Baul for thousands of years, Baul is not a free for all, Baul is not an umbrella for all the random wandering people to use and abuse as they please.
Using the past Baul history as your history when you are not a Baul, your ancestors were not Baul and then reworking it is acting as if you did and created all of the Baul history and talking negatively about this lineage while using it, insinuating and making suggestions that music is the cause of the disappearance of Baul, No you are the cause of the disappearance of Baul taking the opportunities away from indigenous Baul, watering down Baul and stealing the indigenous intellectual property of this lineage. Do play stupid, this is just the beginning of notifying the world what your game is?
A nakal Baul will disregard or reject traditional spiritual practices and teachings, and may create their own doctrines that are not based on the authentic teachings of their tradition. Creating a mishmash or anything goes and everybody is a Baul, just plain creating bullshit to include yourself. Living in a fancy world of false narratives.
Recently I saw "that women" in a video with a so-called Guru who has a huge record of abuse, he disappeared for years and has reappeared as best friends as best friends of Nithyanada who was kicked out of India, and then created his own country, remember that guy?
I have both on cult watch lists, do your research, they both have a long list of complaints. He is making a comeback to a whole new unconscious group of dense people. This Guru is a Mauritian neo-Hindu from Mauritian who if you do research on has some very dubious best friends and dubious activities and questions on cult watch sites. This is who 'that women" associated with praises and as a reward he calls her a Saint. People do your research, yet no one does? It is easier to dupe people into fact cults today that it was at the hight of fake Cults even a decade ago, people do not learn anything from the past, they only become more woke and easily influenced.
https://youtu.be/I3YNqGxxll0?si=GXqnw41I8uPxNd9S
It is a spiritual crime to mislead people for your own purposes.
Do not trust anybody, watch this guys face, too much smile is fake. This video link will explain what a cult mind virus does to humans and especially young people.
Oh my God when talking about Baul, this lineage has no association with these two, we do not endorse cults or this kind of association it is the opposite of Baul. Do your research people.
Cults encouraging blind devotion: A false guru may encourage blind devotion to themselves rather than to the teachings and practices of their tradition, and may discourage independent thinking and critical analysis. Come and join us, follow are path, creating a false image of who a Guru is, when in reality it is not true, it is just a figment of your imagination. And what are getting out of Baul, perhaps you will be a Guru to, perhaps you will get out of India and travel the world by making false claims of you are going to introduce Baul to America when a Baul has been going and living in America for 4 decades, but don't dare mention that Baul only steal the intellectual property of that Baul.
It is important to do thorough research and exercise discernment when choosing a spiritual teacher or guru, and to be aware of these warning signs to avoid falling prey to a false or fraudulent teacher, Baul is not fake it til you make it. A Baul Guru there is no such thing as Baul Master, is not riding on the coattails of another lineage, stealing their songs, dress, style of dance and instruments, how do you account for this. it can be 100% proven, how do you account for this, your actions prove who you are?"
You must do your research, study and practice, today it easy, back a few decades ago we didn't have the internet. You can do all sorts of learning online. First develop your intuition, discernment and the basics, do not follow the crowd you will get no further than the crowd.
Ask profound questions and sources, where did you get that from, don't take what anybody says, did they do the work, did they go to the Ramakrishna Mission, what are they basing their Vaishnava on and watch face read them, this too is part of Baul, you have to be able to read anybody making outrageous claims.
Investigate, research, do not ever care about how many likes they have, or how many followers, sometime that is a big red flag because in Kali Yuga the time is backwards, who is real is seen as fake, and who is popular and has many fans is fake.
What does you gut say, what does your heart say, what does you head say. Do not rush to follow anybody, only your soul knows ask your soul.
This lineage is documented 13 generation to Nityananda of Ekachakra Birbhum W Bengal. Only this lineage, this indigenous ancestral lineage, not related to any other fake pretendian Bauls using the name Baul to collect people.
In the video mentioned, he is misleading and creating generalization hooking a rant as if he is doing an info-commercial for Baul? Bold-faced lies taking credit for what he has not even practiced.
This is fake and a false narrative. His technique is to disqualify this lineage and the fact they have appropriated and stolen the intellectual property of this lineage. Baul is not a game, it does not belong to you people you have done enough damage, you are not indigenous to Baul.
Without a shadow of doubt Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul knows the questions to ask, he can see like with laser vision who is real and who is fake, and from day one he pegged Parvathy Baul as a fake, the problem here is he knew her Guru, he knew all the stories to begin with, you don't and they have made him out to be a saint. The only Baul saint and the last authentic Baul Bhakti Tantric Avadhut was Nabani Das Khyapa Baul.
There are no Bauls left, their is only the over 60 years of Baul preservation that Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul and a Baul history and her-story already completed. A history that Parvathy and Rodham are tying to remake with all sorts of innuendo's?
Cherry picking, name dropping, poaching of this lineage picture taking, social media influencers, with stories based on nonsense. Better yet, get a job, raise children, I had a guru who always said, so you want to be a Guru and when people came up to him and asked how, he would say get married and have children and come and see me in 20 years, you need experience in life first. Not just I am not Baul and now I am an expert on Baul, when the authentic Bauls lived full lives and preserved Baul over generations, they would be rolling in their graves.
Baul has been in the west since 1967, Babu Kishan has been teaching in the west, Bhakti Yoga, Baul Kirtan, Tantra, Baul Philosophy and Indian Music since the 1970's, because he is an expert, he trained from Childhood and is indigenous to Baul, he spent 12 years as a monk 24/7 at the Ramakrishna mission not just reading little booklets he was in a deep 24/7 practice, you have to do the work before you can claim the work? No one can do that today, yet they can claim the whole of Baul, claim authority out of the blue, when yesterday, last year, they didn't even talk about Ramakrishna? Again, blatant cherry picking.
You mention Tarapith, and other shakti peeth like they are ice cream, have you ever done decades of sadhana at these places. Posting memes and taking pictures or making woodwork is not the tantic sadhana of these places where Nabani Das Khyapa Baul the last authentic Baul to walk on earth and he left in 1969 did sadhana, where the villagers knew him and gave him the name Khyapa Baba or Khyapa Baul because he served the villagers, he didn't serve himself. You make a fool of the actual people who did the work the real sadhana, all I hear is you have self-titled yourself, you are doing self-promotion and acting with no shame.
Baul is already in the west permanently since 2009, he does not advertise his teachings, he does not promote what he is doing, the people who know him are in touch with him. An authentic Baul does not play your games of social media, they are always disguised, mystical and mysterious, they do not sell their spirituality and play pretend.
It is easier now through social media, because it is easier to dupe more people, attract more people and start a Maa or Baba business of dominance, don't insult Vivekananda, he didn't come by airplane, he had an authentic Guru that had a tremendous shakti. If you thought Sanatan Das Baul had a power or shakti lol, just stop it, as I said Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul knew him, there are so many stories that must be told. You will be qualified, that I can assure you, just not yet, but soon.
Purna Das Baul is not a shilpi Baul, oh my God he is the Baul Samarat Pandit Purna Das Baul he is an indigenous Baul from the soul and soil of Ekachakra Birbhum W Bengal. If not for him you would have no songs to sing, you would not know anything about Baul because of him Baul was made popular, because of Purna Das Baul and Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and Babu Kishan you would not know anything about Baul, you would not have a template to appropriate? You have no right to talk anything about this lineage and lump it into your fake crusade as the new Vivekananda or the second coming of the Krishna and Radha to the west.
Purna Das Baul is a many time President awarded, with a Padma Shree, have you no shame. Nityananda is a ancestor of this lineage going back 13 generations, you are lying about this 7 generation thing, unbelievable, seriously you have are seem desperate.
You copy everything from this lineage and this blog, not just on this video but on others videos, telling stories that can only be heard here and only stories told by Babu Kishan, trying to remake an already lived history of this lineage, while dismissing the people who introduced Baul to all of Bengal, India and Baul worldwide til this day.
I tried to ignore this recent push into the west and the video titled 'Tantra and Baul', however, it is an insane abuse of Baul, copying of everything already said on this blog.
The interviewer has not got a clue that you are a Baul hawker, she has no idea what she has gotten into. You touch on everything and every part of this lineages lived history, I don't think there is too much missed.
A Baul hawker is someone who uses Baul who is not indigenous to Baul. They copy from where-ever, floating around the internet making contacts, poaching others work and 'faking it til they make it' this started in the 1970's I see there is now a revival in this new Baul scheme?
We live in a post truth era where there is an over abundance of information on the internet, where practice is a show, an after thought, something to brag and act like you know what you are doing, a show, an act, to collect people as you said, in another video come and join us? Baul does not collect people? How can a non-indigenous random person from South India, who has never done any of the Ramakrishna sadhana's claim Vivekananda and RamaKrishna?
Completely manipulating people who do not even understand the language of Baul, pretending, Baul hawkers, who if anybody is a shilpi Baul it is Parvathy Baul who is acting out Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style of instruments and dance, acting out the song she stole from Babu Kishan youtube channel a song from his lineage of Baul kirtan, there is no other lineage of Baul kirtan. People who do not understand the language or Indian Music think this is great, but it is all an act. But, there you are Vivekananda in female acting form is coming to America?
You will need to fundraise for you jackpot, collect donations from unsuspecting fools, in the name of indigenous Baul, this is indigenous identity theft, and indigenous property theft, probably even indigenous fraud, when they steal the songs, style and practices from this lineage and this blog.
Baul is an indigenous ancestral tradition, lineage, Guru Shishya Parampara Lineage there is only one originating from Ekachakra Birbhum West Bengal India. Oh my God he does not know what he is talking about regarding Baul in the West, he does not know anything, no idea and he calls Purna Das Baul a shilipi Baul?
Rodham has elevated 'that women' as if she was greater than Purna Das Baul and Nabani Das Baul and is taking all the work this lineage has done and faking it as if she had done it all. Sheer garbage, Babu Kishan has been teaching Bhakti Yoga for decades in the west, he lives in the west. My goodness what fakery. Now they are the roots of Baul?
Rodham is insinuating 'that women' is bring Baul to the west, just like Vivekanada coming to the west?
Coming to the west is already Baul history, Babu Kishan is in the west lol oh you think you know more than he does? Don't insult our intelligence I take extreme acceptance to your ignorance.
Thousands of people read and do research from this blog since 2009. This must be understood, this is a very old ancient lineage of Baul and there is one lineage, new fake lineages have been created. Our goal is to reclaim and explain what has happened to Baul, this is one of the reasons Baul is no more, too much fakery. It has to be said, names must be called out.
These 2 "That Women' and Rodham are actors trying to repeat the history of Baul already lived as Baul history, Baul indigenous history, they are leaving out many nuances and changing Baul, muddying the waters in a confusing rhetoric, a rambling and claiming of Baul.
Baul is a very old lineage that they have not been initiated into, there is no way their Guru Sanatan Das Baul was a Baul, he copied everything from this lineage, songs, dance, style and even wore the patch work dress Babu Kishan designed.
Babu Kishan knew him way before these 2 were born, he had no energy, he had no knowledge and couldn't speak oral Sanskrit or read the manuscripts, he completely copied Nabani Das Baul style of instruments and dance that is why Parvathy Baul too copies Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style.
This fakery is pushing the boundaries on bull shit, indigenous intellectual property theft and plain old lying acting as an expert on Baul and again randomizing Baul making Baul generic to fit into the narrative.
Since the 1970's I have been studying the cult mind virus and the technique that are used to created cults and followers of cults. It is one of my biggest studies over all of this time.
As a Vedic Astrologer for almost 3 decades I have counselled many who have been looted, brainwashed and don't have a clue who is real and who is not. The techniques are numerous to entrap people, collect people and trick people, ask for donations to help start an ashram, it happens every other day here in the west. First you should have an authentic Baul Guru, someone with adhikara and unfortunately these 2 are not authentic Bauls. Understand Baul is indigenous, there is no way around this, and one should know all the Baul languages first which are Oral Sanskrit with manuscripts, Birbhum Bengali, Sandhya Bhasa and indigenous Bauls own style of Sandhaya Bhasha, there is no exception.
One must be from an authentic lineage with a real Baul Guru who wrote the poetry, not a fake Baul guru who poached the poetry. There is a difference, and one must be educated in all ways. Their Guru should be a oral Sanskritist and non-stealing, truth-talking not someone who is so jealous that they poison a Baul Samarat. I am a strong advocated or exegesis as a Vedic Astrologer and through my cult watch research. Babu Kishan has over 60 years of watching how the fake Bauls came to be, he knew them all including Sanatan Das Baul way before the 2 in this blog post were born, he has the real story.
Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das has been specifically trained in Purva Paksha and academic exegesis in determining who is a real and who is a fake Baul, Guru, Siddha, Tantra, Yogi ect.. He was trained first by his Grandfather (Guru) Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, then 12 years at the Ramakrishna Mission.
The podcast is called the forgotton essence, lol the essence is not there in those 2 fake Bauls, the essence is only in the lineage of Baul, you have interviewed the wrong people. If your param Guru is Satya Sai Baba what are you doing messing up Baul. Then Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna reading small booklets, now Maa Kali, Sir Aurobindo and the Mother love of his writings, 2021 asking what is Baul? My God and you representing Baul? Parvathy is wearing Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style of ankle bells copied from this lineage?
Sanatan Das Baul is NOT a Baul Guru stop this bull shit. All acting, it is all fake. Santan told Parvathy to go and find a real teacher. What a story, Baba this and Baba that, come on this is just a show. A space possessed with spirits that should not be there if one is an actual Baul. OMG what a story? Folks be careful. Bauls use the term Vayu Dharma for prana??
"That women' is a intellectual identity thief, she has stolen songs from this lineage and instead of admitting it will say, Bauls don't care who the poets are. Bauls always know who the poets are? She has the ability to act, all story, who cares what you did, it is about being truthful and not fake. There is no way that they have anything to do with Nityananda of Ekachakra, 7 generations it is way longer than 7 generations. There were no old Baul masters in 2016 what a story of lies. This is they typical making up of stories to legitimize oneself.
https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/02/indigenous-identity-theft-indigenous.html
Nabani Das Baul was the last authentic Baul, the last Baul Avadhut, this guy is exaggerating and lying. Guru and Shishya in Baul was never taken for granted, oh blah blah blah. He has no adhikara or authority to talk about Baul.
I have no idea why these fake Bauls are all of sudden, never before attaching themselves to the Ramakrishna Mission.
Did they see that Babu Kishan has been the first and last Baul to spend 12 years there.
Do the work first, if you are going to claim the Ramakrishna Mission do the sadhana, lets see how far you get that means 24/7 for years?
Stop using Babu Kishan stories posing for pictures talking bull shit as if you actually have done the work.
Then when he was at Calcutta University he traveled all over India with his family and by him-self as a representative of Calcutta University teaching at Universities Indian Philsophy and Indian Music. I gave a list of his teaching at Universites worldwide through the 1970, 1980, 1990 onward.
First you have to attend University before you teach, however this Fake Baul 'that women' has to try to be Babu Kishan in this area too?
The new Vivekananda Baul is coming to the west, she just never did the work except travel the world riding on the coattails of this lineage pretending she is Purna Das Baul singing on big stages, would you not call that actor Baul, shilpi Baul and there is no such thing as Baul Master, you guys made that up.
Someone has the brainy idea to have her talk at Berkley University in San Francisco as if she is an authority on Baul, to show her academic ability and to mimic Babu Kishan's long list of teaching at Universities around the world? What a joke, she is there to collect donations hawking her paintings, she teaches false teaching, that have already been identified as wrong.
She tells the audience there are 4 types of Baul Aul Sai Dervish and Fakir, no there are not, and if you really believe that, why are play acting Vaishnava Bhakti Yoga and Tantra now? Oh right she is still teaching this false narrative to some you Vaishnava people on a podcast, what these young people need is someone who is an indigenous Baul who is trained not faked, you are misleading a whole generation. Baul has been in the west!!
You should be teaching the fake Muslim Baul dialogue? Everything is a one liner, a covering a point of already lived first and last from this lineage, even Indian Cinema Bollywood? Why, that is Babu Kishans lived life, Indian Cinema has nothing to do with Baul, I will tell you why it is all self-promotion for fundraising in the fake Baba and Maa business.
We know where you got the Aul, sai, dervish, and fakir from and we also know why you changed your tune? You can not make this up, once Parvathy was asked where is Baul from and not too long ago, she said Turkey?
Advertising her accomplishment of teaching Baul at Berkley she bragged about it on the front page of her website, she had taught at Berkley University?
The video of that teaching showed that she taught at Berkley University, why, she never attended University, the only other Baul to talk about teaching at Universities all over India and worldwide was Babu Kishan because he went to University with a BA and Master degree. What is this some kind of competition to take over Babu Kishan's life and she has even tried to be associated with Indian Cinema (Bollywood) where Babu Kishan has had a 40 years career? What is the purpose, is it to make you self legit to gain fundraising, it always comes down to wanting something. Now she is going to introduce Baul to the west, what a pile of bull shit, Baul is in the west it has been her since 1967 and no not just because of hippies. If someone asked you to party with them, just say no, Babu Kishan has for 40 years in the west.
In 2009 she came to Vancouver and advertised herself as a Legendary Baul Women, when Babu Kishan has always said, his Grandmother Brajabala Dasi and aunt Radharani Das were the last legendary women, my God has she no shame, these two women were the last Baul women to walk on earth. I have seen Parvathy say she is the only Baul women to travel the world, my Goddess Manju Das was way before her doing cultural programs, teaching Baul worldwide with her husband Purna Das Baul who you have the audacity and gaul to call a shilpi Baul. Pravathy has done nothing but riding on the coattails of this lineage and you have cherry picked from Babu Kishan's stories, life and written words on this blog, written by me Trishula Das, but as told by Babu Kishan.
So Babu Kishan puts in the time, does all the work and you fake your way to fame with dread locks or jata, copying Nabani Das Khyapa Baul the only Baul since his ancestor Khyapa Chand and Nityananda of Ekachakra that had jata, because they did sadhana in the forests alone and this was the way without showers and modern conveniences such as airline travel and internet.
I dare you to cut your jata off, you live in the modern world traveling the world teaching what is not your to teach I dare you to give up your gimmick and see what happens. They are away to gain attention, oh yes we all have heard the stories of how your hair is antenna to the higher realms but that is when you live away from people? Today we have the internet?
Rodham you like to name drop and cherry pick not just on this video, how tricky your are I am an expert at detecting fake people. I have watched your type for over 50 years, spiritual sales people, spiritual hawkers, all the Gurus that came to the west over decades, your view is slanted you are talking to people twice your age, you think everybody is stupid. Babu Kishan he has seen it all thousands of times and qualified many of them, you see he is trained he had authentic real Guru's not marketing masters, big Gurus like Satya Sai Baba who manifested a Gold metal for Purna Das Baul, you see probably before you were a kid Purna Das Baul and family were special guest of Satya Sai Baba's 50th anniversary and other times. It has nothing to do with you and your fake Baul minions.
https://youtu.be/o3NSZIxeNuo?si=vECf4yC_k4kURJnB
You will probably lay claim to this too, saying Baul had association with Satya Sai Baba, no Baul did not this lineage, this indigenous ancestral Baul one and only lineage and the name is Purna Das Baul who brought Baul to the west for more that 40 years of travel to the west, This lineage is connected to the Kali Mandir in Laguna Beach, especially Babu Kishan who was instrumental in helping Usha Harding fundraise for the temple and instrumental in encouraging her to start the temple. Tell me why your Sananta Das Baul was there, he had nothing to do with it and what about Parvathy? Perfect example while we are at it of how hawker Bauls follow this lineage including everywhere, and everything they do and have done?
Baul does not collect people. Baul does not lie, Baul does not say as Rodham says, come join us? Baul does not say there are 20,000 Bauls left in W Bengal, Rodham said this in another video it is a complete lie or exaggeration to collect people? Obviously, the goal is to become fundraise for a jackpot in the lucrative Baba and Ma business? This is the perfect example of a hawker Baul.
Rodham has poached stories and cherry picked from this blog, I can prove it.
It is so obvious, instead of actually working in Indian Cinema they are faking an association by opening up a IMBD account for a youtube video, as a promotion for Parvathy as a Ma showing the villagers touching her feet. It is so obvious Baul is only a mean to an end for the lucrative Maa and Baba business, perhaps you want to be Anandamayi Ma, never could you even touch her feet. Then there is Ammachi in Kerala the hugging saint, she has made billions perhaps that is the end game?
Shilppi Baul, you are the only actor Bauls.
Babu Kishan has already completed, and done all you write about over 6 decades, he has done all the work, met all the people lived in the USA and Canada. He has already brought Baul to America, taught Baul to thousands of people worldwide before you were born, what an insult, the only problem with Baul is that is has been liquidated by you and your Guru, remember it is about character, truth (satya) and non-stealing.
Nabani Das Khyapa knew Vivekananda. You can not even touch or understand who Nabani Das Khyapa Baul was is living in Babu Kishan, they both have been to all the temples you talk about the Shakti Piths, Tarapith. Nabani Das Khyapa was initiated by Bhama Kepa, he was a authentic Tantric there no an armchair take people on tours there, he trained Babu Kishan from birth and it was Tara Ma who saved his life as a premature baby with crooked limbs.
https://vedicgoddess.weebly.com/temples-of-india-blog/kankalitala-temple-bolpur-birbhum-west-bengal
This was a 2013 post, Babu Kishan has been teaching the world about Baul since the 1970's.
Kankali Tala Temple in Bolpur is where the villagers knew Nabani Das Khyapa Baul.
Stop all the bull shit, really it is too much, over the years everything written here has been copied sometimes word for word including out Ektara Foundation goals? Instead of attending and raising money for the Ramakrishna Mission, instead of actually knowing Anandamayi Ma and having a relationship with her as this lineage has, you go and take pictures as if you had that association.
Why are you two reworking everything this lineage has already completed as Baul history and claiming it for yourself. What is the end goal and purpose, you are not Bauls, you can't just fake Baul history without knowing the whole story or the nuances, just rambling as if you are a jokers.
I write about Baul Tantra on this blog, they come out with a pathetic video called Baul and Tantra which is absolutely garbage, do not copy anything from us, time is over.
The first comment made on the video of Baul and Tantra, I thought I would copy it because I am sure it will be deleted; by a reader was;
"now it is Vivekanada and then comes (satya) Sai Baba, Ali Baba,, then comes Adi Shankar, then Modiji, and then comes Sad Guru Ji, and then comes Kejriwalji and then it is Baba Apte and then comes Sridi sai Baba",
the commentator forgot to mention..... Ramakrishna, Aurobindo, Anandamayi Ma, Bollywood a long rant of bull shit, it is so obvious.
I am a mystic I can see right through this guy, I can face read.
They have no shame.
At least KD Babu Kishan and Manoj Kumar composed music and an album for the Shridi Sai Baba temple. The 2 of them were at the Shirdi many many times, with the recently late Indian Cinema superstar, Manoj Kumar was an Indian actor, Film director, screenwriter, lyricist and editor in Indian Cinema he was a giant and recently passed a way, he was a good friend of Babu Kishan they did a lot of work together over the years.
Babu Kishan never talked about his life. I have, because of people who have stolen his music, his intellectual property and his life work. Babu Kishan is not one for name dropping, but what tis going it is a must because Baul history is his history and his ancestors history and it is being bastardized, and stolen.
He didn't talk about it, he composed music for many temples in India and many Guru's he never talked about it?
He didn't say his produced, recored the first ever recored Hanuman Chalisa in the 1980's and played in all temples of India with the most listens to in the history of India. Singing by late Hari Om Sharan.
Where KD Babu Kishan has gone, who he has met these 2 can not dream, the part in Indian History and Baul history that Babu Kishan, Purna Das Baul, Nabani Das Khyapa have played is not talked about, it is time to reclaim the authentic history of the Vaishnava Sahajiya Baul of Birbhum as part of history, rather being replaced by fakes.
I write about Bhakti Yoga and am the first to mention Baul Kirtan on this blog, and then all of sudden "that Women' is listing Kirtan with no mention that she stole a Baul kirtan right off Babu Kishan's youtube channel? No I won't let it go.
Now they are Bhakti, oh wait I wrote about Baul Tantra with implicit copyrights on the material now they are talking about Baul and Tantra.
On the youtube video Tantra and Baul, it is not Baul, Baul Tantra is very specific and can only be learned from an indigenous authentic Baul Guru. Oh my God what is he talking about? The interviewer is born in the west and she meets people like this and thinks they are authentic and that they tell the truth. She does not have a clue, the blind leading the blind, Baul can only been through indigenous initiation not through second hand fakes who write, copy and paste from book to book and call it their own?
It is absolutely necessary that this fakery is understood, there is no such thing as a Baul artist or a Baul Master.
For too long indigenous Bauls have been pushed aside with their names taken off, while fake Baul which we call pretendian Bauls or hawker Baul, have been 'riding on the coattails of this lineage' while reducing and watering down a beautiful ancient indigenous people, it is the nuances that matter and it is the nuances that are completely lost.
I have volumes of accumulated research that I have to dig through regarding Baul. I won't miss a drop, I am wild about defending my husband, his lineage and legacy. I have watched this fake phenomenon for 2 decades now, this last video pushed me over the edge.
Dread locks on a Women is a well know way to attract people, this is gimmick. The dress was copied from Babu Kishan's movie on Baul about his aunt Radharani Dasi, nobody knows this more than Babu Kishan because he designed the dress style that "that women" wore or used to wear. Baul women do not wear that dress style it was created for the movie called Tagori.
First of all if you are not 'Gosia Chand Das Baul or Dasi or an oral Sanskritst there is no way you are Baul.
Sanatan Das Baul is not a 'Das Baul' he is like the rest of the fake Bauls who copied everything from this lineage. He copied their songs, Nabani style of dance and even the colourful patchwork dress Babu Kishan designed. Babu says, he had no energy, he did not have any adhikara authority regarding Baul, he was a refugee from East Bengal and used Baul to survive which many of the refugee's from East Pakistan at the time of partition and the 1971 war between India and what is now called Bangladesh. There is and never were Bauls in East Bengal or Bangladesh that is all made up and can be proved.
There is no such thing as a Fakir or Muslim Baul.
Monohar Kepa was a poet not a Baul by the way, he did not have a lineage, you can not make a lineage out a one time poet?
Purna Das Baul loved him and called him a Baul, but then that was his habit of calling everybody a Baul, he named Bob Dylan the first western Baul, that does not mean Bob Dylan was an actual Baul. Babu Kishan used to compose music for Monohar Kepa because he was a poet and didn't have a tune, he was always special guest at their home in Calcutta.
I saw some so-called, self titled Western Bauls say their Guru was the first Western Baul he was not, he was not even a Baul, there are another group with use Baul to fundraise who made up a lineage that does not exist, a fake lineage.
Baul is not a free for all, this lineage did all the work, you come along and try to be them, without any essence of Baul or indigenous ground to stand on?
Taking awards that are set aside for the indigenous Bauls. Trying to be Purna Das Baul and Nabani Das Baul and using all Babu Kishan's blog and website posts on who the Bauls are to create your fake platform.
The one I really laugh at is how you actually created a IMBD account for a youtube video as if she was a filmmaker in Indian Cinema, next she will be a music composer out of the blue. In the video she showing the villagers touching her feet, Baul did not go to village so that villagers could touch your feet, it is the other way around, omg the audacity.
The Bauls served the villagers, they healed the villagers, Bauls touched the villagers feet, their job was to serve the villagers?
We live in a post truth era, where the 'fake appears real' and the 'real appears fake' this lineage through Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul is going to reclaim and qualify all the lies and liars, users and abusers, so get ready.
Now with AI Artificial intelligence, we are pushed to protect and reclaim this one and only lineage or Guru Shishya Parampara Sampradaya of Baul.
Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu's 4th book on Baul will be published later this year 2025 and all will be explained in detail, the fakery that has gone on, for fame, fundraising jackpots, awards, recording contracts, and traveling the world duping people.
Baul is indigenous and nobody outside the indigenous bubble should ever steal the intellectual property of an indigenous community, they have been marginalized and have had a very difficult time. The United Nations rights on indigenous people clearly states, on the indigenous people have a right to their own self-determination, not someone that is not even from Birbhum?
Baul is not easy, it takes a lot and one is born into a Baul family authentic lineage, not a made up lineage based one generation poet.
The first lie I present here is that Parvathy said, Baul is not from families it is by initiation.
#1. You are wrong Baul is indigenous, which is always from families go and study what an indigenous person is, you may have your own indigenous tribe in Assam.
I don't know if your wrong answers are intentional to include yourself or that you are just ignorant?
You are not a Baul, we know it, you know it, it is just that some government bodies don't know it yet, and westerners are easy to dupe, they do not know the language or what you singing, they don't know you poached songs from this lineage right off Babu Kishan's youtube channel.
Have either of you put in the study and time, no, you just read Babu Kishan being the only Baul attended the Ramakrishna Mission for 12 years being the first and last Baul to have deep roots in the Ramakrishna Mission, as his family fundraised for the Ramakrishna Mission for decades, however, you only fundraise for you fake lineage.
After seeing this past video I feel I have to qualify it and speak out to protect the names and people who are still practicing Baul and are from Baul indigenous to Baul.
Many people love Baul and many people are way more qualified that this character who is poaching bits and pieces of Baul off our blogs and websites. He is tied to Parvathy B?. I didn't want to mention her name, but she is duping so many people and the ones asking the question do not know, the ones listening do not know, so it is very easy to make people stupid as an actor Baul.
I have watched from a far and documented everything she has said and advertised since Baul hit the fb in 2008, not because I was interested the anylitics on his youtube went off the chart. Babu Kishan had created a bunch of Baul fusion videos on youtube on his youtube channel called the, The Bauls of Bengal, we saw the intellectual property theft right before our eyes are were puzzled who is that?
No problem, no big deal, but it was a big deal she took the song, re-recorded it and acted out Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style of dance and instruments with fake tears rolling down her eyes, her acting caught the attention of many, but the disturbing part was she wrote the poets name as Roshik when it was Nabani Das Khyapa Baul song that had already been recorded first on Hindustan Records.
Again, this is the character of someone who wants to be a Guru a Maa, this is not a Saint or a Baul Avadhut, character matters.
You may ask what intellectual property theft, we have the analytics,
Because of this pathetic display on this Video, 'Hidden Truths of Tantra and Baul Mysticism' and because I have critiqued many books and papers on Baul I feel I can no longer ignore this blatant display of ignorance. People do not think critically about any of this anymore. There are no hidden truths, and if their are Baul and Tantra is secret and only a shadow, has been revealed by Babu Kishan?
What game are you playing, you think talking about the shakti peeths in your neighbourhood qualify you to even talk about 'Baul and Tantra'. That history regarding Baul belongs to Nabani Das Khyapa Baul he was the last and only Baul Avadhuta.
Baul and Tantra has only ever been told by this lineage, everything in this video is cherry picked with loose associations, there is a real indigenous history of Baul and Tantra and this is not it.
In another video a few years earlier he displays his talents at poaching from many sources including from our intellectual property, reworking and cherry picking, stories about Nabani Das Khyapa Baul that only have been told by Babu Kishan, alluding to the fact he knows the Baul - Bob Dylan stories, my goodness it was so blatant and he was so excited and very proud of himself, again character always is important?
I have a timeline on all of this and documents including analytics of the poaching of LineageBaul.blogspot.com and our websites, mine in particular, so much so I took down the Baul pages on my website because I could see the poaching right before my eyes.
I first saw Rodham on Dr. Staneshwar Timalsina's fb page called 'Vimarsha Foundation', I was there to deepen my understanding of Kashmiri Shavism and have listened to and attended all his classes online.
I am a perpetual student since 1974, a student of Baul, Tantra, Vedic Astrology, Ayurveda and Doaist Martial arts and Qigong including Buddhist Qigong, Health Qigong, Daoist Qigong and Tantric Qigong for decades and I do non-stop research.
Out of the blue at the beginning of his foundation, Roddam started to promote Parvathy Baul videos on Dr. Timalisina's fb Vimarsha foundation page? We were all there to listen to Dr Timalisina lectures and to support Dr. Sthaneshwar Timalsina. This was not a place to promote yourself, it was a teachings of the Vimarsha Foundation. I mean I could have posted promotional videos too, this is about manners and etiquette.
I was perplexed and stund, I didn't say a word, but then realized I had to observe what is going on. My husband of almost 20 years Krishnendu Das Baul aka Babu Kishan has been instrumental over 60 of introducing Baul to all of Bengal, India and worldwide? He can tell in a second who is real and who is fake. He created Baul Fusion in the 1970's.
BabuKishan.org
Rodham's intro in his video is arrogant acting like he is some accomplished Guru, perhaps even Ramakrishna himself. You would think he was a monk at the Ramakrishna mission for 12 years, oh but, no his daddy was into Ramakrishna, just as Parvathy qualifies as her mommy was into Ramakrishna?
Lose associations are made of everything this lineage has already lived and completed as part of Baul history. Baul History and her-story is never from outside of the one and only lineage of Baul. Babu Kishan first started to talk about LINEAGE long ago he named this blog lineage Baul and all of sudden everybody made up LINEAGEs that never existed before?
In one post 'that women' laid claim to be the first Women Baul to travel the world, which is a lie. Now they are claiming the Parvathy Baul is the first Baul to sing on a stage in Calcutta solo, are you kidding me, that is so false a lie. First of all she is not Baul and her Guru was not a Baul, you have made up a fake lineage, and secondly all the first and lasts in Baul are done. Baul is no more only the indigenous Baul is left to tell the story, the story can not be told by an non-indigenous Baul who always tells false narratives. You are not indigenous to Baul neither of you, you are not from Birbhum and only indigenous people can self-determine who they are. Baul is not an artist. It is all fake and your fake fishy narratives are mixed with the intellectual property stolen from this lineage.
We ignored it, not anymore, another lie seriously she must have thought nobody was watching. Manju Das who was Baul Samarat, Padma Shree Purna Das Bauls wife, was the first Women Baul to travel everywhere in the world teaching at Universities with her son Babu Kishan as she was educated and a master classical singer with many albums. She passed away in 2010 but traveled far and wide since the 1960's. Before her Brajabala Dasi and Radharani Dasi, omg you two have no shame.
Manju was the first and last Baul women to create Baul her-story traveling the world. That legacy belongs to her not "that women' who merely rode on the coattails of this lineage and their history and her-story. That her-story belongs to Manju Das at least she was married to the Baul Samrat Purna Das Baul an indigenous Baul born in Ekachakra Birbhum W Bengal.
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Brajabala sang too and we had talked about her on 6 May 2019.
