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Friday, September 14, 2018

Babu Kishan and Bob Dylan the untold story! Babu Kishan released all of Bob Dylans albums in India and Promoted him through out Asia!


Babu Krishna 4th book will be a historical Baul, tell all.

The one thing they couldn't teach Babu Kishan was to lie and he is known for his impeccable honesty.

 An old picture of a young Babu Kishan at Bob Dylan's home in Woodstock, early 1980's.

Bob Dylan and India

When Babu Kishan worked for CBS India 1986 - 1993 he released, marketed and promoted all Bob Dylan's Albums in India and Asia. Babu Kishan has personally known Bob Dylan for decades. If it not for Babu Kishan a super fan of Bob Dylan's poetry no one in India would have had a chance to listen to Dylan back in the 1980's 90's onward. Babu Kishan convinced 'RV PANDIT' the Chairman of CBS India to release all Bob Dylan's albums in India and he said, yes Babu go ahead. It was due to Babu Kishan that the people of India and Asia were able to know Bob Dylan and his music.

Babu has been inspired by Dylan his whole life and gave him
the name 'Western Baul'.

Babu tried to bring Bob Dylan to India between '1986 to 1993' while he was the A/R Manager at CBS India, however, unfortunately few people or I should say the companies that sponsored concerts in India were not interested in sponsoring his concert in those days. 

Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das could not get sponsorship for the concert, he tried over many years by promoting and marketing Bob Dylan to India and Asia but still was not able to get the right sponsorship.

It is a curious matter some in Bengal and even more curious that the new creation called 'Bangladeshi Bauls' or Muslim Bauls claim to know Bob Dylan?  No, no they do not! Now all are claiming that all of the Bauls are associated with Bob Dylan, this is not true. Babu's father and uncle Laxshman Das Baul initially met Dylan at the 'BiG Pink' a recording studio house owned by Bob Dylan and The Band in 1967 in Woodstock NY. No other 'Bauls in Bengal or Bangladesh' ever had anything to do with Bob Dylan except this initial 1967 time and later through Babu Kishan's association on his own.

18 years after 1967 it was Babu Kishan through his travels and 'letter writing' to America on his own, met Al Aronowitz The God Father of Rock Journalism, George Harrison, Allen Ginsberg, The Band (Levon Helm) Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson and others who associated with Bob Dylan.

 It was during this time period that he developed a relationship with Dylan. Babu Kishan became good friends with all because of his 'musical ability' not because of being a Baul although when it comes to Babu Kishan the 2 are intertwined, most people can not handle this or Babu Kishan, they want to slot him in one slot but he is multi-talented, multi-instrumental and a musical genius, this is what others say including Allen Ginsberg, Al Aronowitz and Levon Helm to name a few. 
Levon Helm and Babu Kishan
Babu Kishan and Levon Helm 2002
Babu Kishan teaching Levon Helm Indian drum at Levon's house in Woodstock NY

Babu Kishan is a Master (Pandit) of India Classical, Folk, Baul and Bollywood (Indian Cinema) music, he has produced over 60 albums, 150 musical scores and released thousands of albums of Indian, Folk, Cinema and fusion music. He has a Masters degree in Indian Music, please see his resume. He is not just a regular Baul, he is a Master of Indian Music and he composed all of his father's music.
Babu is the only Baul that is associated with Dylan other than initially his father and uncle who met him Woodstock USA and they are on the cover of Bob Dylans album 'John Westley Harding'.

Bob Dylan (never) went to a wedding in Calcutta secretly or otherwise in 1990, he was on a 'Never Ending Tour' that took him to Brazil in 'January of 1990' when the wedding took place BobDylan was in Brazil, as far away from India that one can get. In 1990 Bob Dylan toured Brazil, Europe, Canada and then to the USA doing 93 concerts. 

Dylan did NOT teleport to Calcutta for 2 hours. If you know India, just imagine flying to Delhi or Bombay in 1990 for your first trip to India. Calcutta did not have an International Airport so Dylan would have had to catch another airplane or train to Calcutta for a secret wedding, of a person he did not know? Dylan never knew Babu Kishan's younger brother at all, he never met him and he really had no connection with Purna Das Baul he was more connected with Laxshman Das Baul. 

Think about it Dylan talked to Babu all the time in Bombay, Babu had Dylan's contact information in Bombay and it was work related because he released his music for CBS in India. Why would Dylan go to Babu's brothers wedding in India without talking to Babu? It is laughable, insulting and disrespectful to Babu Kishan and his 86 year old father for the youngest brother to have concocted such a story.

There was one white guy wearing a Red Kurta from California at the wedding but he was not Bob Dylan he was one of Babu Kishan's old friends Pats husband 'Thomas' from Laguna Beach, California and another women Debra, also from Laguna Beach. When they heard the Bob Dylan was there, they all laughed? Babu's middle brother Bapi married the younger brother and his wife was there 24/7, he says there is no way Bob Dylan was there. A fabricated story fake news, reported over and over. Sorry folks and it is really sad the younger brother is doing harm to his father's name?

The news of Dylan in India is fake news and it has been confirmed from many sources. Including Bob Dylan's own son Jacob Dylan whom Babu chatted with just this past August, he said there is no way my Dad has ever been to India, never ever.

Babu Kishan was the only person who had any private contact information for Bob Dylan's and he did not send an wedding invite to him for his brothers wedding. 

I have no idea why Journalists do not dig deeper, why they believe one or one source who obviously have an agenda and then for that source to drag in his father an 86 year Purna Das Baul? And there was one Professor from Calcutta University who posted this too, shame on him too, I am sure his post has long disappeared but I remember because I had a friend in Calcutta who basically hounded me relentlessly because her son had written an article on the subject and now was the expert on Baul and she did not want to ruin his name?

Why speak out, because it is a huge embarrassment when you know the truth and others (media) just copy and paste from one source without even investigating. Journalism used to be investigative today it is just copy and paste and they will believe any lie, in this case it was NDTV and outward from there, reported on other news sources. There is a simple remedy to this, interview the people involved. 

Interview Bob Dylan first!
Does anybody have the guts?
Interview Babu Kishan who you probably didn't know was the guy 'in charge of Dylan in India' and that shows a lack of journalist skills, interview the middle brother who married the fools, and look at Bob Dylan's tour schedule?

Babu Kishan from 1986 - 1991 worked as a consultant for CBS Indian & a Music Producer, Creative Director, and Promotor of artists from India and Overseas including Cindy Lauper, Micheal Jackson, New Kids on the Block, Pink Floyd, Gysy Kings and many others for CBS INDIA.



 Babu Kishan arranged with Bob Dylan to go on his Tour of America in the 1985's and Babu  brought his Father and Mother along as the Bauls of Bengal, they only did part of the tour. It has been 18 years since 1967 when Purna Das Baul and Laxshman Das Baul brothers first met Bob Dylan. Babu Kishan worked with a dogged determination to reconnect with Dylan and in the process connected with Al Aronowitz and Allen Ginsberg whom Babu remained great close friends until they passed away.

Krishnedu Das aka Babu Kishan in Berlin representing CBS Indian for the release party of this Dylan Album 1985.

The first reconnection happened in the early 1980's there was a album and Birthday party concert for Bob Dylan at Madison Square Gardens. Babu Kishan was already close to Al Aronowitz and Allen Ginsberg they gave Babu there passes so he could go and meet Bob Dylan introduce his father to Bob Dylan again. Babu brought his parents along meeting Dylan after 18 years. It was Garth Hudson of The Band who put them on the special guest list.

Others who attended were Bruce Springsteen whom Babu had met previously through Al Aronowitz the God Father of Rock Jounalism. Madonna, Peter Paul and Mary, Mike Butterfield. Babu took a clip of his dad with Bob Dylan and Bob Dylan only asked, How is Laxshman because it was Laxshman Das Baul who he really related to? Babu dropped his Mom and Dad at Badal Roy's house as they were not interested in going to the concert and then Babu headed back to Madison Square Gardens and hocked up with Al Aronowitz and Allen Ginsberg who had arrived. 

Everything Babu did was always with the thought of his Fathers career as he was his father's manager and arranged all his tours and travels up until 1991, he worked for his father full time for over 20 years and those were Purna Das Bauls most successful years of  life. Babu Kishan started traveling with his father in 1971 to attend the first Rock and Roll fundraiser for the Bangladeshi's in London organized by The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. 

Mick Jagger recorded Purna Das Baul at his home recording studio in Nice France, it was called Jai Bangla, that is another whole story and chapter. Babu Kishan has jammed with the Rolling Stones years later in London, USA and Mumbai. Babu is the only one who maintained a relationship with all including Keith Richards and Charlie Watts.

Photo by famous Bollywood Photographer Viral Bhayani

2004 in Mumbai story will be included in the Book.


Anybody, who knew Babu knew how he sacrificed his own career for his parents, even when he went to work in Bombay he sent all his money back to Mommy & Daddy and his mother was his bank account to say the least it was all spent, a bank that spends your money! Do not believe any of them when or if they said, Babu left us, he never ever left them, they left Babu at birth and again when they got him when he was 8 after Nabani died. They left him, he never ever left them.

Babu performed with The Band & Bob Dylan approximately 40 times all over America in the mid 80's due to Babu Kishan arranging the tour, it was arranged through Babu's friendship with Al Aronowitz, Allen Ginsberg, The Band and Bob Dylan.


Babu Kishan's link on Bob Dylan's - Who is Who?


#BobDylaninIndia #BabuKishan #Purnadasbaul #baulhistory #lineagebaul #baullineage #baulofbengal 

Babu Kishan and his many decade friend Allen Ginsberg, this will be expanded in Babu's new book to be released within month, A tell all!

Allen Ginsberg's Baul Guru was Nabani Das Khyappa Baul who he met in 1962 - Allen Ginsberg was a many decade friend of Babu Kishan's - Orignal Post feb 15, 2011 updated.

This is the only Baul Poetry Allen Ginsberg wrote.

Baul of Bengal, I sing for all,  Blue Danube is my Jamuna,  Hudson my Vrindavan,  see me in Calcutta, Toronto and London,  Hear my call Baul of Bengal,  Same man many names,  same player,  many games,  Love is magic to win at life,  Hear my call O Baul of Bengal.”  

Written by Allen Ginsberg in 1983,
as a gift to Babu Kishan ' 

This lineage of Baul are the pioneers and the first Bauls to travel the world, they have been teaching, talking, traveling around the world for more than 70 years. They are the pioneers and only lineage of Bauls to open the door for all Bauls to now say they are wandering Bauls and world wide travellers before Purna Das Baul and his family no Baul ever travelled the world or outside of India. All Bauls follow this lineage, they sing their songs, dress as them, and follow them around the world. This lineage has inspired all Bauls in one way or another right down to calling themselves Das Baul and Dasi and Nabani Das Baul's one and only style was copied, Ektara, Baya, Napoor (metal ankle bells and of course there is no Baul without a Mystical voice.

Some people have been using the Bauls to generate funds from UNESCO and governments by making up stories about where the Bauls are from and who they are associated with. They are making people stupid by writing stories that are not even part of history. Truth is that Baul only became famous by this lineage. 

Even stranger is the fact that this lineage popularized Lalon Fakir songs, before this lineage no Bauls were singing Lalon Fakir (Shah) songs or associated Lalon Fakir poetry with the Bauls of Bengal? Lalon Fakir was never a Baul he is a poet who was Hindu! This lineage started to popularize Lalon Fakir song through Babu Kishan who is a poet/music composer he loves Lalon Poetry and put tunes to his songs and had his father sing and record. Just because a Baul sings Lalon Songs does not mean Lalon is a Baul. 

Same with Monohar Khepa and Bhava (Baba) Pagala, they were poets not Bauls and Babu Kishan knew all  personally over a long period of time and recorded and composed Music for their poetry. Both Bhava (Baba) Pagla and Monohar Khepa would stay at his house in Calcutta, in fact they never said they were Baul they followed this family of Baul this lineage. The New Bauls who say they Monohar and Baba Pagla were Baul Guru's are making up stories, their Guru's used to work at Monohar Khepa's Ashram at the Joy Dev Mela, where Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and Purna Das Baul were special guest of this ashram and the biggest hit at the Joy Dev Mela bringing in millions of people, there was a lot of jealousy around Purna Das Baul because he drew a million crowd and this jealousy almost killed him. 

Purna Das Baul does not go to the Joy Dev Mela anymore because way back then these Nakal (fake it til you make it Bangladeshi refugees) who followed Baul, used to hang out at Monohar Khepa Ashram they poisoned Purna Das Baul almost killing him. We know who they are and they this will be revealing in Babu Kishan's 4th book.

There are many people writing about the Bauls of Bengal that mention, "Allen Ginsberg's" name ( the famous Americal Beat Poet.) Allen Ginsberg (June 3, 1926 – April 5, 1997) was associated with this lineage of Baul, his Baul Guru was Nabani Das Khyappa Baul. Allen mentioned Lalon's name in one writing 'Lalon' (1774–1890) but was never associated with him, he never met Lalon, it was way before his time. It was only Nabani Das Baul, and Babukishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul whom Ginsberg associated with, Nabani Das Khyappa Babukishan's grandfather was his Baul Guru. Babu Kishan was a great close friend of Allen Ginsberg's whom he met every year in New York for decades. Yet, when people write because Ginsberg wrote a poem called Lalon and it has nothing to do with Lalon or Baul, all the writers make up stories? They have not a clue that there is a real story about Baul and Ginsberg, they never did their research. I find today writers are just turning out material without doing any research, they just spew and speculate and have not go a clue, if they can make people stupid they have a hit, more fake news.

This lineage  (family) specifically Babu Kishan was the first to record Lalon Fakir poetry as songs, this lineage has always talked about Lalon Fakir, before that no one even paid attention to Lalon Fakir who was a poet living in Bangladesh but from a Hindu family from Bengal India. In fact there were only a few Bauls in Bangladesh and they mostly Aul, Sai, Dervesh, Fakir when this family went back to Bangladesh in the early 1970's to visit Babukishan's mother's, she was from a educated Hindu family living in Dhaka, they were visiting(Manju Das's) homeland to revisit her early life and property that had been stolen in 1952?? 
It was Babukishan's mother (Manju) who was from Bangladesh,she started to sing Lalon's songs and record Lalon Fakir songs. Manju Das's father Jogesh Das was a Professor of languages at Dhaka University, he was a Triple MA and was violently kicked out of Bangladesh for no other reason than he was a 'Sanskrit Scholar' and Professor of languages at Dhaka University, he was a Hindu and didn't speak Urdu in 1952.

On 21 February 1952, students in the present day capital city called a strike because they were told they could only speak Urdu the language of Pakistan. The Pakistan government had taken over Bangladesh calling it East Pakistan. The Pakistani police fired on the students despite these peaceful protests and a number of students were killed. What is never written about is that these East Paksitani militants also decapitated Jogesh Das's brother head and confiscated all their property, kicking the whole family out of Bangladesh where they became refugee's in Calcutta. In Calcutta even more tragedy awaited this family. 

Jogesh Das was a linguist found himself at the mercy of the muslim militants, they were going to enforce their will on the people. This piece of history regarding Jogesh Das is never written about in Bangladesh, they only talk about he Muslims, they have deleted all Hindu History? 

February 21is called, "International Mother Tongue Language Day." in honour of these events, however, they never mention Jogesh Das's story and I am sure there are other Hindu families who suffered the same fate I mean they cut off Jogesh's brother head, one has to wonder if they were not mentioned because they were Hindu? One can only imagine what they did to all of the women when they had to flee, when know the war of between India and East Pakistan in 1971 was horrific for all involved.

It is very common to read Bangladeshi's claiming Allen Ginsberg, and Bob Dylan were associated with what today is called Bangladeshi Bauls, Muslim Bauls (no such thing). It is also, common for many new Bauls who try to appropriate this history too, they will talk or write about it but they leave off the names alluding somehow to the fact that it was their Guru or their association. This has happened with the stories of Rabindranath Tagore too, they use the stories of this family and just say Baul. Please respect History and use the names of this family and stop making up stories and stop appropriating Nabani Das Baul poetry and putting on other poets names or making like a it came from your Guru and your fake made up lineage that never existed. It will all come out in the new book, every bit of it. 

However, none of the history from the 60's onward has had any association with the Bangladeshi community. 

George Harrison, Allen Ginsberg, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, and all the famous people of India have only been associated with this lineage of Baul, Babukishan and his family. We are writing and recording this history which has already been preserved and archived decades ago by Babu Kishan.

It is way too easy for history to be distorted and many people are now using Baul as a way to become famous without even understanding the deep sadhana and the lineage of Baul. Today we have the internet and it is way too easy for anybody to write anything. The goal here is to preserve what is left of the The Bauls of Bengal which is very much near extinction. There is no more Baul history or her-story to be made, Baul was complete decades ago. All we can do now is give respect to the past without making up stories.

Ektara, Baya, and Napoor (ankle bells) if you were them you are copying Nabani Das Baul and if you use the name Das Baul and Dasi you are copying this One and Only Lineage. If you or your Guru wore the patchwork Guduri (dress) you are they are copying Babu Kishan because he designed it for his father Purna Das Baul.
Statue of Nabani Das Khyappa Baul @Vishva Bharti University (Rabindranath Tagore's University) Allen Ginsberg's Baul Guru.

Photo of Nabani Das khyappa Baul taken by Rabindranath Tagore, Nabani Das Khyappa Baul was the Baul who inspired Rabindranath Tagore. Tagore gave Nabani the name Khyappa before this no Baul used the name Khyappa.. and Tagore called this picture and Nabani Das Baul, "Mirror of the Sky."

This song written for Babukishan by Allen Ginsberg in honor of  Nabani Das Khyeppa Baul. Babu and Allen Ginsberg had long talks in New York regarding Allen's association with Babu's grandfather Nabani Das Khyappa Baul. Babukishan kept in touch with Allen Ginsberg from the 1980's until he past away in 1997.

The below is from BabuKishan.org (Friends)


The American Poet Allen Ginsberg & Babu Kishan The Indian Poet.

Babu Kishan is in the process of writing his personal story of  his long friend and friendship with Allen Ginsberg. He is the only Baul who developed a long friendship with Allen Ginsberg.

​Of course this friendship has it roots in Babu Kishan's Grandfather 'Nabani Das Khyepa Baul'who was an Avadhuta that Ginsberg met on his trip to India in '1962' and whom he kept a personal and private connection all his life. You can see Babu Kishan's link on Allen Ginsbergs Page under links, miscellany. Babu and Allen are both poets and they were mystical friends.

"We also are indebted to the influence of Allen Ginsberg, who met Nabani Das in the early 1960s and wrote “Indian Journals” and never wavered from his spiritual path; to Albert B. Grossman who brought Nabani’s sons Purna and Luxman Das Baul with their group to the US in 1967 to record for Elektra Records and tour; " 

Albert was the Music Producer of Bob Dylan. It was 'Allen Ginsberg' who contacted them to bring Nabani Das Khyapa Baul to America:

Albert Bernard Grossman (May 21, 1926 – January 25, 1986) was an American entrepreneur and Managerin the American Folk Music scene and rock and roll He was famous as the manager of many of the most popular and successful performers of folk and folk-rock music, including Bob Dylan,, Janis Joplin,, Peter Paul and Mary, The Band, Odetta, Gordon Lightfoot ."

It should be noted that it was Allen Ginsberg who wanted to bring Nabani Das Khyepa Baul to America but he refused, thus he sent his two son's, Laxshman Das Baul and Purna Das Baul and their band.
Albert B Grossman with his wife and Babu Kishan 1983
Dylan and Grossman
Poetry written by Allen Ginsberg for Babu Kishan

This is the only Baul Poetry Allen Ginsberg wrote.

Baul of Bengal, I sing for all,  Blue Danube is my Jamuna, 
 Hudson my Vrindavan,  see me in Calcutta, Toronto and London,  Hear my call Baul of Bengal,  Same man many names,  same player,  many games,  Love is magic to win at life,  Hear my call O Baul of Bengal.”  

Written by Allen Ginsberg in 1983
as a gift to Babu Kishan ' 

Babukishan composed the music for the original in collaboration with Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm, (of The Band) Bob Dylan's Band in 1985 for the tour.  

This is the one and only piece of Baul poetry Ginsberg wrote.  Babu Kishan sang this on 40 city American tour 
with Bob Dylan and the Band.

Babu became great friends with The Band and jammed with them all the time.
he time.
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Thursday, September 13, 2018

Nabani Das Baul and Deben Battacharya 1954 - Nabani Das Baul was the Baul who initiated Rabindranath Tagore into Baul. All Bauls follow this Lineage, they sing their songs, dress as they dress and follow them around the world. Baul was preserved and archived decades ago, it is impossible to reinvent the wheel.

'Specifically #7 and #12 are poetry by Nabani Das Khyapa Baul' and some of the are (Poetry by this Lineage of Baul), some songs are not Baul songs at all they are Folk Songs.

Nabani Das Baul
1895 -1969

Mirror of the Sky is the name Rabindranath Tagore gave Das Kyappa Baul, Nabani was known as 'Khepa Baul and Mirror of the Sky'.
All Bauls followed Nabani and this Lineage.
Ektara, Baya and Napoor (medal ankle bells) were known as Nabani Das Baul's style. He had his own style of dance and way, all who copy his style of dance and the Ektara Baya, Napoor are following Nabani Das Khyapa Baul. All who call themselves Das Baul and Dasi are following this lineage. All who wear the patchwork dress are following Babu Kishan because he designed the dress!
ShantiDev Ghosh who was in charge of the Pous Mela and Tagore's Vishnu Bharti University and Rabindranath Tagore's right hand man used to say, "Nabani Das Baul was the symbol of Baul and the last authentic Baul. He never liked the new Baul singers, he could see right through them and the watering down, destruction of Baul these were called Nakal Bauls, all will be talked about in Babu Kishan's new book, many will not like the truth because they have pulled the wool over the eyes of many for decades, riding on the coat tails of this One and Only Lineage. 

Baul is not from Turkey, Persian Bangladesh or any other concoction that new Baul singers have fabricated and continue to fabricate in the name of this lineage, taking their names off and adding new names, culturally appropriating and making people stupid. Baul is only from Birbhum and all Bauls follow this lineage, they sing their songs, dress as them. copy them and follow them around the world.

Call yourself a Baul, copy this lineage, travel around the world, that was what Babu Kishan always promoted and that is why he helped so many Bauls however, what he never expected was the lies, distortions, and made up new lineages, he never expected people to steal his Grandfather poetry and the out right lies of putting other poets names on. He did not expect what is going on today after 40 years or more of teaching Baul around the world. 

Stayed tuned for his new 4th Book and a Youtube tell all called 'Spotlight on Babu Kishan. Nothing is wrong with Baul fusion he loves it, he is the one who started Baul fusion decades ago but do not make up stories and put the poets names on the songs. Tt is not true that no one knows and to use the excuse that it is an oral tradition and not recorded, is not true. It is recorded and has been archived by Babu Kishan he has spent a lifetime doing this. If you do not know that is not an excuse, you do not know because you are not a Baul and using Baul to fundraise or become a Baba or Maa it may seem like a good business but this is someones family and lineage you are using.
Ram Kinkar Baij the well known respected and best friend of Nabani's and Tagore was commissioned to create this statue of Nabani Das Baul for Rabindranath Tagore, it stands at Vishva Bharti University in Shantiniketan Birbhum Bengal in honour of Nabani. It was created a very long time ago and is a very old statue probably dated 1940's.
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To this day Nabani Das Baul is still the symbol of Baul, but the young people will never know this history or her-story unless it is told, there is so much distortion it is embarrassing to this lineage and family. This is a drawing of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul who is the symbol of Baul. The new students need to understand and remember the significance of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul.

Photo take by Rabindranath Tagore it is at the Royal British Museum too.