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Tuesday, November 23, 2021

Osho and the connection with Babu Kishan! Updated Repost from April 2012

                      Babukishan - Osho - & The Bauls of Bengal

Babu kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul is a Vaishnava Tantric Baul from birth born in the village of Suri Birbhum, W Bengal given at birth to his grandparents Nabani Das Kheppa Baul and Brajabala Dasi who named him Krishnendu now KD Babu kishan.

 Babu Kishan is his Bollywood name, there is a long story of how he became known as Babu Kishan one reason is he did not want to use his fame in Bengal and he did not want to use his Dad's Purna Das Bauls fame, he did everything on his own merit, that is why most people in Bengal do not even know Krishnendu Das is Babu Kishan.

Osho knew Babu kishan personally since the 1980's Babu had been composing music in Bombay. He worked for CBS in Bombay and Osho wanted all his talks recorded on to tape. Really Babu is the only one who can talk about Baul and Osho all the rest who do are full of hot air. How would they know, other than reading this blog? It amazes me all the so called experts and they do not have a clue, they just name drop and that goes for Baul too, all are name droppers, speaking about something they know absolutely nothing about?

Along came Babukishan the first Baul Osho had met other than Nabani Das Khyapa Baul many decades ago when he was a student traveling to Bengal. Osho never knew any other Bauls. Osho was deeply inspired by the Bauls of Bengal only because he met Nabani. Babu Kishan is the only Baul that can accurately speak on this subject as he is the only one alive who knows and Babu was a great friend of Osho's college friend who went with Osho to Bengal all those years ago, not only did Babu know Osho he knew his best friend a famed cartoonist in Bombay for decades and her all the stories.

Osho wrote 2 books on Bauls that are not completely accurate, but still in print today. In one of their many converstations Babu kishan had with Osho, Babu asked Osho to change the books to make them more accurate, Osho agreed he said he would but he passed away in 1990 at age of 58, before these books could be changed. Thus many things he wrote about the Baul's are inaccurate and were made to attract people.

Babukishan spent many, many hours with OSHO talking about the 'Bauls of Bengal' and of course his Grandfather Guru Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and his lineage of Baul. Babu Kishan through CBS composed and produced most of the music and tapes that are selling today.

The books on Baul that Osho wrote are way too simplistic with many assumptions made about who and what the Baul's of Birbhum Bengal are, please note: Osho is not a Baul he is not from Bengal as are all the scholars of yesterday and today, not from Bengal and making huge assumptions, cherry picking, copying and pasting, translating not being accurate on who wrote the songs.

They give a few rupee's to random or poor lineage Bauls from this family and take advantage in the name of preserving Baul rather than helping they are stealing information for their own benefit, and probably mistranslating making association with other poets who are not actual Baul in some ways creating a cultural genocide but thinking they are do gooders? That is why Babu Kishan gives very little information out, he has been used by so many over the decades. He has almost 60 years experience world wide with scholars of Baul, never trust the scholars as you are just a means to a career for them?

Osho said Bauls were not philosophers, WRONG; they are the biggest of philosophers of all Indian Philosophies, dual and non-dual.

Baul's are poets but not only poets, no Baul without the inner essence of Baul. The name of the Poets is a Must, there is no generic Baul, or saying Baul's do not care, no true Baul would ever say that, only someone stealing on the outside would? 

Only the fake Baul's do not care because they do not know and are fundraising to preserve Baul? This is really an crime against indigenous peoples and there is no integrity is saying, Baul's do not care or putting other generic poets names on this lineages songs.

Bauls are singing the poetry from this lineage the Lineage of Nabani Das Khyappa Baul and his lineage, you would not even know the name Baul if it were not for Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, Purna Das Baul or Babu Kishan? They are the ones who took Baul outside of Bengal to India and the World, others followed shamelessly not even mentioning where they got Baul from. I have many great stories of the others that followed, mostly refugee's to Calcutta from Bangladesh either partition or 1971 war time when all you could hear on India radio was Purna Das Baul. 

When Babu brought many to his home, where they either were servants or were his disciples, he taught many, but his name completely erased because it became survival of the fittest in the 'fake it til you make it' Baul. All sang and followed Purna Das Baul wanting to be a great singer, but not necessarily a Baul.

Lalon Fakir's poetry which nobody knew until this family went back to Bangladesh in the 1970's and recorded it thus Baul became associated with Lalon Fakir. Babu Kishan is the first to bring Bangladeshi singers to Calcutta, he composed music to Lalon Songs back in the 1970's, before that Lalon poetry did not have music to the songs. Lalon Fakir or Shah is not a Baul but he is a poet, he never practiced Baul sadhana?

Manju Das, (Babu's birth mother) was from Bangladesh, her fatherJogesh Das was a Sanskrit Professor (With 3 Masters Degree's) at Dhakha University, in 1952 they had to flee for their lives because Jogesh Das spoke Bengali and Sanskrit and at the time Bangladesh was being Islamised by the Pakistani's and if you didn't speak Urdu you were either dead or you had to flee for your life. 

There were no Bauls in Bangladesh in those day or very few, there however, Dervish, Fakir, Sai and Shah which somehow got lumped in as Baul, but they are not Baul, dervish fakir sai shah are all Muslim Sufi. 

Baul for thousand of years has been based on Indian Philosophy Vaishnava which is Hindu, they accepted all people who rejected by other groups including Sufi and Buddhist of that particular time. This lineage even accepted Bangladeshi (East Pakistani refugee's) encouraging and helping but that does make a person a Baul. Babu Kishan helped many of them.

However, in these modern times with the demise of the 'Lineage Baul' many of the Bangaldeshi refugee's had to survive and when one needs to survive they will do whatever is necessary to survive including making up stories and cutting the name of the lineage Bauls off, many were jealous and started to become jealous of Purna Das Bauls success. Even poisoning him and trying to kill him at the Joy Dev Mela. This story will come out and so will names.

The new Bangladeshi refugees, through no fault of their own, thought it was a good way to make money and survive and thus the demise of the Baul's watering down, reductionism. 

As Sufi flowed into Bengal, Islamists who rejected any Sufi came to the Bauls, the Bauls learned the juice of Sufi but that does not mean they became Sufi.

Buddhist's as they flowed into Bengal, were only given shelter because Brahmins rejected these Buddhists, the Bauls accepted them but they did not become Buddhist.

All rejected people were accepted by the Baul's including refugee's from the 1971 East Pakistan and Indian war, now Bangladesh. This is where most of the problems began, they tried to follow and become Purna Das Baul singing his songs, following his success but then realizing they could be the ones, they started using this lineage following whatever they did. Nabani passed away in 1969 and none of the new Baul followers even met him, not many of the Lineage Baul cousins met him but sweet sweet Brajabala was there until the late 1990's, but she was busy with family. 

Babu considers her his mother as he did not know his mother was his mother until the early 70's after Nabani whom he only knew as his father until 1969 when he found out Purna Das Baul actually was his father..

This is a huge story never told and only Babu Kishan knows all the players because he encourage all of them, he brought many along on their journeys around the world. 

Not realizing the fate of the "riding on the coat tail, new Baul who have created fake lineages and fake Baul Guru's.

Bauls are based on the ancient Sanatan Dhrama of India, Baul is a Dharma not a religion nor a cult. They are only one Sampradaya, now extinct, there are only a few who know the real story and the inside information. Do not use the Baul's.

Bauls are Tantric Bhakti Yogi's and this lineage is based on Vaishnava. 

A Vaishnava based on pure love and respect not the kind that has incarnated to the West of abuse and name calling as the new Vaishnava of the West has done.

Vaishnava Bauls are sweet and humbler that an blade of grass, they have survived the British, the Muslim invaders, disease, famine and now in '2012' are almost extinct because of modern society. I wrote this in 2012 it is now 2021 and things have only gotten worse.

Bauls talk and accept all religions and people, they visit temples, mosques, churches this is but only one thing that  what makes them different. 

You will not find that with Sufi or other groups, they only talk about themselves or talk about Allah or their own God. This may be one of the reason most people consider Lalon Fakir a Baul because his poetry talked about all but without Baul sadhana and the inner secrets of Baul, poetry does not make one a Baul, there is so much more.

 The Bauls always accepted all, they are the original Peacemakers of the planet and have something to teach the world at this time. In 2005 UNESCO said, The Bauls are an Masterpiece of Oral and Intangible History of Humanity, unfortunately this is a farce because the Bangladeshi official who did this received millions of dollars and went into hiding, he used the Bauls with false teachings making them muslim and the money to preserve Baul songs of Bangladesh which do not exist, he said Baul is from Persia? Just one of many who use Baul for their own cause.

Baul is simple if you grew up with the Guru and spoke sanskrit, learning all the philosophy from birth it is really easy if you are from the lineage. It is a Guru parampara tradition, too many people write inaccuracies about he Bauls because Bauls do not give out information easily. 

Babu Kishan personally knew all of the scholars who have written books about the Baul's including all the American scholars, he has argued their writings are inaccurate since the late 1970's meeting all of them, and lecturing at their Universities around the world because he was qualified both academically and from inside the tradition. 

Scholars pay anybody a few rupee's to any poor person, they then claim and make up stories for books and a career as an academic with no repercussions as to another humans family lineage. It is just a game for name and fame, using the poor for their own interest and career.

Babu Kishan has written 3 books about the Bauls back in the 1980's, the real Bauls are basically extinct they need accurate preservation not speculation and a rewriting of what is already inaccurately written.

This below statement made by Osho is accurate is some ways and in some ways if you take this literally it is totally inaccurate and over simplified. 

What Osho said regarding the Bauls of Bengal is just fluff he never knew any Bauls other than Babukishan and he met his Grandfather Nabani Das Baul once? Osho had written the books on Baul before he met Babu and passed away before he could fulfill his promise to Babu Kishan to change the books.

There is one new Baul who has gone to Delhi representing the Baul connection with Osho, but he is singing Babu Kishan's Baul poetry LOL.... Nobody knows the truth, people who follow Baul need to start to be honest and saying whose songs they are singing, who the poets are instead of using and pretending they are lineage Baul. I mean this guy too says he is from a lineage but singing Babu Kishan's songs, he has a good voice but really?? There is only ONE lineage of Baul.

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The true story of The Bauls of Bengal written by a living lineage holder. by Babukishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul


"To be a Baul nothing is needed. In fact, the moment you need nothing, you become a Baul. The moment you are unburdened and you don't possess anything, any past, you are a Baul. No, things like that are never originated. Nobody creates them; they happen. They are part of nature. 

Source - Osho Book "The Beloved, Vol 1" .

This quote from Osho's book is wrong in many ways, but right in many ways, Baul is a paradox. There is a very long discourse that goes with Osho is trying to say and may be misinterpreted in many ways. It is NOT so easy to be a Baul but many want it to be so, so that they can easily grow dread locks and dress up, making up lineages and follow Baul. Not so easy!!

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Monday, November 15, 2021

Preserving Baul in a new world of Internet Marketing Masters!


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Cultural Mis-Appropriation = Indigenous Genocide

Baul is not random Umbrella name for just anybody, that is like saying Acharya is a random name for anybody who has no where to go, for anybody who does not have a designation.

 Baul has been used as an umbrella name for Fakir, Sai, Shah, Dervish, Aul, Kartabija, you name if is someone does not know, they label themselves as Baul. 

No, BAUL is NOT an umbrella name for the above, NO you are wrong.

Baul is distinct and different, today Baul is extinct and many scholars believe just because someone tells them something or sings a Baba Pagla song, it is Baul, Baba Pagla was not a Baul he was a poet, he loved Baul and this family, he followed this family and because they were well connected he was near them. They did not follow Baba Pagla? Bauls sing some of his songs because Babu Kishan composed music for them? 

Do you know which ones he composed music for, ah ha right, I bet you did not even know that? Did you know that Baba Pagla was a regular guest staying at this lineages homes in Birbhum (Lakshman Das Baul) and Purna Das Baul's home in Calcutta? Did you know he used to baby sit and watch Purna Das Baul's children? 

Anything related to Baul comes from this family, there is no other lineage, that is a bold faced lie. Qualify it, you can't because you do not know enough. Talk to Babu Kishan he is the only person that preserved Baul, and if anybody is collecting funds to preserve Baul, they are cheating, they do not know anything except what they have read and repeated from Babukishan.com or from this blog. I can prove everything because I have documented everything ever written about Baul, omg all the users fakers and cultural appropriators is beyond your imagination. 

Do not follow anybody that says they are a Baul, they are NOT, do not follow us. Do not donate to people who want to preserve Baul, it has been preserved already decades ago by Babu Kishan.

Baul are not cross dressers either, how dare you write that? Maybe people you think are Baul are cross dressers but not Baul. Maybe your ancestors were cross dressers or trans and I suggest you go and write about your own ancestors, what a mess you are making of something that does not belong to you? This will be qualified by Babu Kishan.

Today 'Baul singers' sing everything even Bollywood songs, the difference is they haven't got a clue what they are singing and neither do you? 

Today's 'fake Bauls' steal Baul songs from this lineage, take the names off and then have the gaul to say, Bauls do not care who wrote the poetry?? 

I say very loudly, hey, Bauls absolutely care, but when your Guru is not a Baul Guru, and you already know that but you have created a job for yourself posing as a Baul they of course you would say that Bauls do not care who wrote the poetry especially when you are singing the songs from this lineage? 

When in fact a true authentic Baul knows who wrote what poetry. Seriously fake Bauls make it up as they go, to what ever will make them a famous Baba or Ma. Seriously messed up and then this same person has the gaul to say they composed something, double talk, be careful what you steal? Watering down and destroying Baul.

One scholar writes that Kartabija is a sect of Baul, 100% WRONG, Baul is not! Neither is Aul, Aul and Kartabija they are different sects. Where on earth do you get this from? They are not connected to Baul, they are not sub sects of Baul, they are completely different?

Then these things are copied as truth by other scholars, Babu Kishan knew most if not all of the earlier scholars and what they have written is wrong, and it is copied and pasted over and over as truth. This is how Baul and other south Asian Indian subjects become deluded and watered down. What gives you the right to write about any 'indigenous peoples' when nothing is true that you write but they make a career off of indigenous peoples, twisting and then getting paid for it? This is happening to all indigenous peoples and their need to be some accounting of this.

Baul has specific practices, none of the new Bauls or Baul singers knows about those practices, but today with internet they copy and paste and water down and reduce Baul? For crying out loud one Baul women does not even know the name of the drum she ties around her waist, her style has been appropriated from Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and she has appropriated his music too, making up fake lineages? It should be a crime. It sounds harsh but this has gone on for too long!

You may ask how? By the deconstruction of Baul cultural teachings, the deconstruction of the history and her-story of the indigenous Bauls. By using and abusing, watering down and twisting what doe not belong to you, by people who want to be Purna Das Baul following everything Babu Kishan has ever done, where he goes, even his work in Bollywood, seriously?

No one in this world would know anything about Baul if not for  this one and only lineage.  They are the pioneers of Baul. They brought Baul from the villages of Birbhum to India and then to the world. No one travelled around the world except this family, no one, they brought some randoms along, those randoms thought they were smart, and went on their own the next time even though they were not Baul, but hey no one was watching? Now someone is watching and documenting all the fake and false teachings watering down and reductionism that is happening, the social media fake famous is alive and well in Baul.

Deconstruction by making stories up, by making lineages up, by taking the name off of history and adding your own?

 'Deconstruction of faking it til you make'. Deconstruction by using what does not belong to you?

You can not make this up, the demise of the authentic Lineage of Bauls ! The Essence the living lineage, is not in who can get the most likes on facebook. 

Nor is it in being a facebook Marketing Master? 

Baul is in the 'Essence of a living lineage' (from a line that is as old as when Krishna walked the earth some 5,000 years ago). 

The essence is not in Baul actors, tourist attraction jokers (the fake it til you make it ones), the exotic dress and hair, do not make a Baul! The one who says, Baul is not from Family, is 1000% wrong and trying to usurp Baul to fit their lack of respect and lack of Baul Wisdom.

Baul is not about a fake crying devotion, or a twirling jata performance. Baul is a lived tradition, from an authentic lineage, not a fake made up lineage?? A lineage that has in it a shakti so strong, a mystical lineage, not an acting lineage of one generation that never existed until Babu started talking about his lineage?

Commandeering, expropriation, seizure, takeover, usurpation, annexation, attachment, confiscation, grab, reductionism, watering down, reducing, riding on the coat tails, of the ones who created a road. This one and only pioneering lineage who did all the leg work, who wrote the books from inside the tradition way before any of todays modern drama actors were even born!! Who wrote the poetry, who started to travel all of India for decades. Baul is only from Birbhum, when Babu Kishan went to Bangladesh in the 1970's there were no Bauls in Bangladesh. 

Babu Kishan was the first to bring Bangladeshi famous singers to Calcutta and record them singing Lalon Fakir Poetry, before that no Lalon poetry was recorded in Bengal and that was in the 1970's. Lalon is a great Poet but he is NOT a Baul, he did not do Baul Sadhana or know the inner Baul, he was a poet. 

Who promoted and introduced the world to Baul? This pioneering lineage and they started in the 1950's, they were the first and only Bauls to travel and the ones that came after, went where they went, followed what they did, dressing as them and singing their poetry and meeting their friends?

Who took their names off and adding their own names as if they are were the ones? Who created a new lineage that does not exist but copies everything Babu Kishan does? I will tell you who in the new book, Babu Kishan's 4th book. 

Singing this lineages songs but saying they are your own or just randomizing the songs saying Baul does not care because you do not know or are just stealing the songs because you created a lineage that does not exist, name the Baul Masters, saying Baul Masters for everything is making Baul Generic and random, which is wrong? Baul has been archived and the real Bauls are gone, with only a few who know the true Baul, there are not even hundreds or thousands that is complete lie. 

 Not properly educating what exactly Baul is, teaching wrong teachings, as I said they make it up as they go, there are not 4 or 5 types of Baul and common sense will tell anybody that Baul is NOT Sai Dervish Fakir, those are Muslim and Baul is not Muslim it is Tantric Vaishnava the path of the Avadhut, oral Sanskrit not Urdu?? 

Baul is from family(this lineage) has a long family line not a fake made up one or two generations of people who were not Baul? YES, they adopted others BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THEY BECAME EXTINCT AS THEY ARE NOW. 

BAUL it is not from any belt in India, Baul is from Birbhum Bengal and they have a specific dialect of Bengali. I am happy to report because Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das was raised hearing and remembering oral Sanskrit he has an ear for music and languages and has composed music in many Indian languages, he can tell who is from where. 

Baul is not dress up, growing long jata and twirling to attract attention? I will tell you what cut your hair and lets see how popular you are? Stop all the acting, faking it til you make it. 

Not all do this but some do, bragging they are pioneers and the only Baul Women to do this and that. How could Manju Das be overlooked, how could this lineage be over looked. No more truth will be told. Today it is easy to travel, think back to the 1950 onward.

Intellectual Property Theft (Songs from this Lineage, used without giving credit, songs cut down and the singing style changed, singing and dancing Ektara, Baya, and Nupoor - Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style without any understanding that they are copying his style. Nabani created and danced a certain way, all Bauls follow Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and make like it has come from another made up lineage. This is hurtful and it is cultural appropriation. Baul is extinct and this has to stop, please be respectful.

Adopting a elements of a minority culture for fame, gain,  using trickery, creating harmful stereotypes that dilute the truth of who the Bauls are, this destroys the Essence of Baul. Cultural Appropriation by fetishizing Baul Culture, making it about a bunch of fools singing and acting foolishly, making Baul an over sexualized community, a bunch of fake tantric teachers, this has reduced and watered down the true meaning of Baul.

By others attaching themselves to Baul such and the so called Bauls of Bangladesh, there is a long story how this happened, they do not exist, but yet all the fake bauls perpetuate this because they do not have any other stories. They do not know.

The dilution and erasure of these indigenous practices, all because of poverty and a need to ride on the coat tail of this lineage, while diluting the songs and the spiritual practices of the Bauls of Bengal.

​The diluting of a small group of people from Birbhum, the appropriation by from Bangladesh and outsiders who erase names and stories, claiming them as their own, repeating wrong things scholars have written about Baul and singing folk songs calling them Baul songs.

Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das @ 22 - he is almost 60 years of age. 
At 22 he already had preserved most of Baul.
There is not need for others to fundraise in the name of Baul, especially when they are NOT Bauls and their Guru is Not a Baul Guru!! In today's internet world you can dupe many outside the tradition and collect people because nothing they say is qualified, they make it up as they go, the fake it til you make it actor Bauls.

At age 13 Krishnendu was awarded the youngest successful Music Composer of his time in the early 1970's, from that time he composed all of his fathers music. He was born into his Grandfather and Guru Nabani Das Khyapa Bauls lap and lived with him for 8 years in Birbhum before living with his father Purna Das Baul, he is the eldest Grandchild and eldest son of Nabani.