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Friday, November 8, 2019

The deconstruction of Baul Culture - the impact on Lineage Baul

I have noticed over the past 13 years of writing about the "Vaishnava Bauls of Birbhum" since the age of facebook and social media that what I have written has been copied. The names taken off and other names added. The idea's, terms, circumstances, concepts, stories used in new Baul singers stories, books, youtube video's, and post with no credit given but new lineages made up, a cultural appropriation not necessarily people in other countries but a cultural hijacking within Indian Culture.


Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul was the first Baul to create  a website called BabuKishan.com and he had millions of views, he started the website in the early 199o's and it was the first time people could learn about Baul on the world wide web. People copied and pasted everything he wrote all over the world, it was the first inner portal on Baul and he was fundraising for his lineage to help in his already decades of preservation on Baul his lineage.

He is the first to put Baul songs on MTV, he is the first for anything and everything regarding Baul, yet many have made up stories. Baul has been completely culturally appropriated by outsiders and by Muslims, there never ever was a such thing as a Muslim Baul, if Muslim is based on Sanatan Dharma, Yoga and Tantra we could say yes, but they are not and the watering down and reductionism is real. Baul is extinct, what is happening today is not Baul it is fake, it is drama and Baul singing. There are a few who have some keys who are more authentic but they are not seen, they are hidden, or can not make up stories and tell lies, therefore, no one knows who they are. 

 We have laughed over the years how people copied and pasted his story, whether it was right or wrong and he could see who was doing it. He could see every intellectual property theft. 

Many started to make documentaries. Many people he thought were his friends and who he even gave the idea to about making documentaries on Baul went ahead without him. 

Regarding scholarship he helped many in obtaining funding, even giving his signature and they promised to include him in the projects only to disappear and reappear with some fake Baul a token to make their project look legit. He helped many (you know who you are) fundraising from Universities, they took his lessons in Baul and Bengali and then went on to write about and create the Bauls of Bangladesh or just pushed him aside. 

You see Babu Kishan is a very sincere serious guy and he believed you. This has lead to a huge distrust in any academic and they still come a calling, tell me, asking questions. I helped a scholar a year ago against Babu's warnings, yes I learned my lesson, he told me but I did not listen. Was that a mistake, yes I told everything I knew and then turned around and they used pictures of other Bauls who are not even Bauls and I will qualify this in the new book? They cut and chew and in the end the story is changed to suit their professor for a PHD, you see this is the cause to get funding or a job as a professor as the leading authority of a subject. Then others copy and paste what they write over and over, check out academia.com, it is like a competition of articles, to make themselves legit even if it is true what they write or not, just because it has been written before does not make it correct. It is mind boggling all fighting to be the one, for better funding.

Many scholars have written about the Bauls of Bengal and Babu Kishan has known them personally and qualified them because what they have written is wrong and now new scholar only copy and paste from book to book, it is like acid that burns a hole in a whole culture now deconstructing the culture. 

Baul has been written about, it was easier to get funds from a University if there was a new subject or object of study. That is how many scholars have viewed Baul as an object of fundraising, so they create a Baul of Bangladesh with no clue of how this came about and that Baul is not nor never was from that area of Bengal when it was Bengal and that Lalon Fakir was a great poet, with Baul like ideas but he did not do any Baul sadhana and without Baul sadhana there is not Baul. Lets call Baba Pagla a Baul, lets call Lalon Fakir a Baul, lets pay some money to this poor family over here and they will be the centre of my research on Baul, whether they are Baul or not, no one will know? 

Babu Kishan has had this problem even in his own family, sorry to say, it is about money not Baul for the sake of Baul. He is a real serious guy about his lineage and by the way no one ever used 'lineage of Baul' until I created this blog lineagebaul.blogspot.com for Babu Kishan. Babu Kishan spent decades preserving Baul and recored most of the Baul songs of his lineage, he is not just pointing fingers at others, he will be pointing fingers directly at his very own family who has played a big part in this deconstruction of Baul, there is no love lost there, but he still has deep respect for his lineage, Nabani Das Khyapa Baul & Brajabala Dasi, this truth will all come out soon and it will not be pleasant. Babu Kishan has always been a free agent and protected his family but he can not anymore. Baul is extinct.

And.. another by the way, Babu Kishan is the one who set the template, the ground, the platform for Bauls to travel around the world. He is the one who encouraged others to follow him around the world, his mother Manju Das is the first Baul women to travel outside of India, in the 1960's, yet I see others making this claim? You can not talk about Baul Women and firsts without talking about Manju Das love her or hate her, she was the only legendary Baul Women to ever travel outside of India. Baul has been extinct for about 30 years if not longer, all the rest is made up stories and lineages.

Babu Kishan brought many who follow Baul along on his own trips as musicians, now many are claiming they too have a lineage not this lineage but their own made up lineage? Their students are claiming they are lineage too?? When Babu knows exactly they were not Bauls, and their Guru never claimed lineage and the family did not even like this person because they only took and never gave back? How useful to make up a lineage of Baul, when it more likely they were kirtan-ist from Bangaldesh. Riding on the coat tails of this family and lineage. 

Then you get the westerns who do not have a clue and can not make it through to Babu Kishan because he does not let people through, so instead of pushing through, they just fold their tent because it is too hard and follow and promote fake. I had a Kung Fu Grand Master and it took 3 years before he would call you by your name. 

Baul is like that, you are not automatically in, anybody who is a Baul who automatically makes friends with you is not a Baul, there is a procedure of initiation by seeing how easy you are bought and sold.

 Babu Kishan can tell who you are in a second, what you want, and what is your intention regarding Baul. Yes, he has been fooled by people in the past, especially scholars only because of a hope, a hope to preserve his tradition. 

Do not expect Babu Kishan to give you a drop of Baul unless he can see you are sincere and are ready to go the length, he may even mislead you to qualify you. He is wiser and older now, the lessons of almost 60 years are etched on his soul. Lessons of growing up with Nabani Das Baul and Brajabala Dasi the last Bauls of his lineage who lived as Bauls untouched outside desires, of his journey through preserving Baul and all the Guru's and top in India Music Art and Film. Terrorist attacks, surviving the 2004 tsunami, many have no clue who Babu Kishan is and what he has lived, he is not a regular person or a simple Baul he is extraordinary and a genius in Indian music.

He has fundraised for thousands of peoples and causes for decades, so he helps many but when it comes to Baul he spent a lifetime, why should he give you his inner soul. You have show some sincerity from your inner soul.

No Bauls traveled the world or outside of Birbhum until this family (lineage) of Bauls did. All follow them, how they dress, how they dance, and the songs they sing and some even take the names off the people who recorded the songs (Babu Kishan) and the people who wrote the (poetry of the song) and put their own on, they copy the styles right down to watching a youtube of Babu Kishan sing the song a hundred times and give no credit.

I have seen people release a book on Baul, I have read the book, then only a few years later to see the book completely updated even using terms that Babu Kishan created 'the rasa lila mystics'. It just goes on and on, elaborately creating new lineages, the desperation is endless. One would say to me get a life, well this is my life, I am a researcher, reading everything that people have written about Baul and qualifying it.

All will be qualified, everybody including Babu Kishan's own family. This book is taking way longer than expected, now onto its 13th year and quite frankly, I more that anybody want to be done with this subject. What I have learned more than anything is that it is Kali Yuga, and in this time period, 'what is real is seen as unreal and what is unreal is seen as real!

 That goes for truth, truth is lost to this world, I am not sure many people do not know what it is to tell the truth and be honest?" 

Babu Kishan had written 3 books in the past and was the first Baul to ever write a Book on Baul, his father wrote one with a Vaishnava Scholar using all of Babu Kishan's notes and other book that were left in the Calcutta home without his permission or credit, I read it there are truths, it is a difficult read and through my research i found an post by a Baul Women who claims she is from a lineage, copied and pasted the techniques listed in the book directly, saying that is what she is teaching, un freaking unbelievable, life is stranger than fiction?? All will qualified. 

He was the first to put Baul on Youtube, a mass of Bauls many of whom were not even Baul followed, singing folk songs, pieces of Baul songs, saying they were this and that.

I guess I could say, people follow this lineage of Baul, people absolutely follow Babu Kishan but in this circumstance regarding Baul, they follow, copy and make up stories?

Jai Guru, Jupiter the lord of telling the truth and good judgement just moved into Sagittarius rules by Jupiter (the Guru) lets hope some sense regarding a little sect of Vaishnava Tantric Bauls is told and told truthfully by someone who actually knows the truth.






















































































Wednesday, November 6, 2019

Facts about Lineage Vaishnava Tantric Baul - Family Lineage, always family, the whole concept of Baul is based on family.

The cover photo: above is of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul on an album recorded in 1967 when Allen Ginsberg told the Grossman's to bring Nabani to America, he did not come, he sent his 2 son's and musical troupe, The Bauls of Bengal. This album was recorded at the Big Pink in Woodstock NY, Bob Dylan and The Bands place to jam.

 Babu Kishan in the 1980's came to associate with Bob Dylan and had a many decade friendship with Allen Ginsberg, he is the only Baul who knew Ginsberg for a long period of time, yet others keep writing about Ginsberg and the Bauls without knowing this? Babu Kishan performed in 40 or more concerts with Bob Dylan and the Band? He released all Bob Dylans albums in India and Asia. Yet, those who are talking and writing keep making like they had the association. Babu Kishan's youngest brother never ever met Bob Dylan, he lied when he said Bob Dylan came to Calcutta to secretly attend his wedding. Bob Dylan has never been to India. It is easy to talk about outsiders destroying Baul but it comes from the inside too and it comes right from inside Lineage Baul. Baul is extinct, no indigenous peoples of planet earth can survive their old way of life. 

Baul has been passed down for thousands of years through 'family' lineages. A Guru Shishya Paramapara Sampradaya. It is easy today to make up what Baul is and create new lineages that never existed, sad but true and then fundraising in the name of Baul, telling people Baul is not from a family but initiation only? Shockingly easy and this is watering down and reducing what Baul is, what you do not even have authority to do but do because Baul is extinct and you think you can charm, dress exotic and perhaps you too can be a Baba or Maaa??? 

Not only watering down and reducing, it is a cultural appropriation a cultural degradation, speaking about what Baul is when you make it up and change what Baul is based on your own selfish desires without respect for the ancients.

Most of these people speaking now for Baul are not born into any Lineage or are not related to lineage Baul. Baul became a way for many outsiders to make a living as they can not find another way, they learned if they can be a Baul, at least they can survive. This is the way with all indigenous peoples who struggle to adapt to the modern world. 

Baul became extinct decades ago, cigarette sellers and low caste have become Baul, however, Baul was a high philosophical thought that is not reachable by ordinary person. They are riding on the coat tails of this lineage, singing their songs, but only portions there do not know the teachings and make it up as they go. Making up stories, following this lineage around the world. Baul adopted people into their families and initiate them into Baul as part of their family. The Western people do not know and they think, oh wow how cool, how exotic, and even the Bauls that were born in Baul families can not survive, as I said Baul is extinct and I will say it again Babu Kishan has spent his whole life preserving Baul as he could see the writing on the wall.

Bauls meet  in Akara's and learn, it takes at least 12 years of living with a Baul family to become a Baul and today or for the past at least 3 decades that does not constitute what makes a Baul because Baul is extinct. 

I read recently a paper by a young scholar OMG it sounds like she is saying Baul learn only seminal retention in Akara's. What a way to absolutely destroy Baul, misinformation and sensationalized piece of scholarly garbage, of an extinct indigenous peoples? Instead of scholarly work trying to get to the truth of what Baul is of trying to meet someone related, this copy and paste paper after paper needs to qualified by someone because they ruin the lineage of a people that do not exist anymore in the original Baul way of life. 

It should be known that authentic Vaishnava Baul of Ekchakra Birbhum the only lineage of Baul are NOT low caste, real Bauls were actually Gosai which a Brahmin lineage but they rejected the Gosai, but you would never know this because you have never met an authentic Baul, you only can make things up and copy and paste what every other writer wrote and it is wrong. Baul is extinct and it has been preserved decades ago by Babu Kishan but then you do not know him or have never talked to him and probably never will after he read what you wrote about Baul? The so called Bauls you are meeting are degrades because of scholars like you, you do not understand what it is to be an indigenous person or anything about preserving authentic Baul.

There are 2 types of Bauls that come from Lineage Baul and the family of Baul, one is Girhi (lives in the home, mother, father, husband wife and children) and Udasi comes from the family but is a sadhu and wanders but still associates with the family. All come and go from a family, there is not Baul without family connection and just saying you are from a lineage does not mean you are, your Guru copied and followed everything Nabani and Purna Das Baul did and he wore a the patch work quilt dress Babu Kishan designed, he sang the songs of this lineage, he danced exactly carbon copy of Nabani and his style of Ekatara Baya and Nupoor but you have a different lineage? No, not true and in historical Baul and when Babu Kishan starts to talk, the truth will be out for all to see.

Nabani Das Khyapa Baul aka Khepa Baul - the Baul who initiated Rabindranath Tagore into Baul and his wife Brajabala Das a pure Vaishnava Baul she would call Nabani - Mahanto.
Baul is not like other Sadhu's or Tantrics who obtain initiation from any Guru although they have more than one Guru in a lifetime, they study everything but that does not mean they become that, they are born Baul. 

Bauls stick together in a group or Akara. It is sad today that Baul is extinct. New Baul singers are singers and they sing the song of this lineage, they follow this lineage of Baul Jai Nitai is a common greating, Nitai for their direct ancestor Nityananda a Baul Avadhuta from their village Ektara Birbhum but they have moved on, they are not orthodox and were Sanskritist. New Baul follow the dress, many dressing in the patch work quilt dress that Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das designed back in the late 1970's, this is how you can tell who follows who, if you see Ektara, Baya and Nupoor 100% copied from Nabani, nobody did this but Nabani but now you follow but take his name off and use everything of this lineage and even follow right down to exact places and friends, how is this possible?

Many follow the one and only Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style of Ektara Baya (drum) and nupoor style of bells, this did not come from another lineage. There is no other lineage of Baul. Baul is not Fakir Auls Sai and Dervish that is Fakir not Baul, that was a plant by Babu Kishan to see who would copy it and by Bhaktivinode Thakur who hated the Bauls, he was an orthodox reformer and never met a Baul in his life, like other city folk and scholars they think everybody is a Baul, sorry that is not so.

Babu Kishan in the late 1970's brought some Bangladeshi's to Calcutta to record them, and to record Lalon Fakir songs, he is one of the first to record Lalon Fakir poetry. Babu Kishan is an extreme creative and a Master Composer of all Indian Music, he uses his talents in many experimental ways.

Lalon Fakir was a great poet, he was not a Baul. His poetry is Baul like but he did not follow Baul practices. More will be written about this in his new book to be released. Babu Kishan preserved Baul decades ago and is always shocked what people write about Baul, copy and paste and make it up as you go? Somehow Babu Kishan's recording of Lalon Fakir (Lalon shah) poetry into songs, made people think Lalon was a Baul. He was poet, he did not have a tune to his poetry until Babu Kishan put music to his words. A poet only is not a Baul. There is more and much of what Babu Kishan has to say will be shocking.
Babu Kishan late 1970's front row middle person beside the guy with the dark shirt, the others are all Bangladeshi singers, Purna Das Baul back row.

Not many understand the destruction they are causing, they do not understand, they just use and play act to fundraise for their fake lineages.

A new young scholar is now copy and pasting making huge assumptions and calling Baba Pagla a Baul, Babu Kishan knew him personally over a long period of time, he would stay in their house in Calcutta, he was a poet and a musician. Baba Pagla followed Baul not the other way around, Baul did not follow him, he used to stay in their home in Kolkata and follow them.

Babu recorded Baba Pagla many times, he was not a Baul, he was a Baba and loved Baul. Baba Pagla's students were not Bauls they were something but not Baul. More personal stories to come and people to be qualified openly. 

Purna Das Baul made Baba famous because he would say Purna sing my song, sing my song, so he sang many of Baba Pagla's poetry, music composed by Babu Kishan. 

Baba Pagla used to hang out with Purna Das Baul and family, he used to babysite Babu Kishan and his brothers. Babu recorded him many times and there are many stories, He was not a Baul but appreciate Baul, he was a Bengali Poet who had his own following.

I will say it again. Baul is extinct, leave them alone and let them preserve their birth right, no outside interference is needed, no speculations, no using their story as your story but taking the names off, no riding on the coat tails of this lineage. 

Nabani Das Khyapa Baul is the last authentic Baul who left in 1969, his wife is the last authentic Baul Women who left in the last 1990's. New Baul singers are just that singers and some are yogi's and yogini's but not Bauls, to be a Baul is not an act, it is deep and now extinct. You follow Baul, desire to be but you are NOT, stop duping people and stop making up stories and telling untruths. 

Have some respect for an indigenous people, stop making it up as you go! You follow Baul, there is no other lineage and if you don't know, do not make it up, it is endless, the damage is endless.

More to come is the late book Historical Baul from inside the tradition, not by followers but from the Lineage. The book is late but better late than never.

Recently National Geographic apologized, the headlines read, “For Decades, Our Coverage Was Racist. To Rise Above Our Past, We Must Acknowledge It.” And as well intentioned as it is, it is a problem and it hurts indigenous cultures that are marginalized and Baul is, even if it looks like some are rich, they are trying to survive in this world. Leave them alone. 



The only Baul poetry written by Allen Ginsberg, Ginsberg wrote this for Babu Kishan. Ginsberg wrote a song title Lalon, however, the song has nothing to do with Lalon and the speculation and linkage that is made by people who did not even know Allen Ginsberg is crazy.

 Babu Kishan a poet visited Allen Ginsberg at least once a year in his home in NY that is a book unto itself, yet when writers write about Allen Ginsberg's only association with Baul, Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and Babu Kishan not a word? Just using Babu Kishan's stories and taking his name off and speculations. This has gone on for decades. 

“Baul of Bengal, I sing for all,  Blue Danube is my Jamuna,  Hudson my Vrindavan,  see me in Calcutta, Toronto and London,  Hear my call Baul of Bengal,  Same man many names,  same player,  many games,  Love is magic to win at life,  Hear my call O Baul of Bengal.”


Written by Allen Ginsberg (1983) for Babu Kishan