Baul Tantra, 'Tantra Mantra Gopi Yantra'

                               

To reinforce the use of intellectual property theft and indigenous fraud within the Baul tradition, specifically highlighting the upcoming release of Babu Kishan's fourth book, "Mystic Baul Tantra, Tantra Mantra Gopi Yantra." I AM asserting that this book, and the knowledge it contains, is the only authentic representation of this lineage or one and only Baul Parampara, there is not another, those are fake Bauls making up lineages and Baul Gurus. Now morphing again as Guru Baba and Guru Maa, while having people worship their feet, this is 100% not Baul.  

Baul only worships Krishna feet or Radha's feet, although Krishna and Radha reside on the altar of the human heart, they do not sit in a chair and try to be Ananda-mayi Ma (such an insult to a Saint) or to be the multi millionaire Ammachi, Radha Ma or a number of them, this is a business nothing more, nothing less LOL. Next they will be an aghori because apparently aghori is the most searched item on the internet these day, if one thing doesn't work, they morph to another.

If one has been acting as Baul self-titling themselves as Baul with fake Bauls Gurus, trying to get people to worship them to collect people donations and financial jackpots to preserve Baul when Baul has already been preserved through at the very least13 generations of ancestry documented and through KD Babu Kishan over more than 60 years. Baul does not collect people? You are not Baul, encouraging people to worship your feet is not Baul, present yourself to be worshiped. Baul teaches others to touch their own feet. You can't copy everything from this parampara or lineage and then bastardize it through more fakery.

Copyright, no poaching for your youtube channel, no taking the names off or acting as if you actually know the story. The information on this Blog or this lineages and one and only parmapara does not represent hawker, random Bauls.

BabuKishan.org

https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/02/indigenous-identity-theft-indigenous.html

Here's a summary of your key points:

Exclusive Knowledge and Lineage 

• Copyright Assertion: You emphasize that "Mystic Baul Tantra, Tantra Mantra Gopi Yantra" and its contents are copyrighted and "all rights reserved," stating this was written "many years ago," establishing a historical claim to the intellectual property.

• Babu Kishan's 4th Book: This upcoming release is presented as a definitive work.

• The "Only" Lineage of Baul Avadhuta: You assert that the only authentic "Baul and Tantra" and the only lineage of the Baul Avadhuta is that of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul.

• Nabani Das Khyapa Baul's Unique Practices: You specifically highlight Nabani Das Khyapa Baul as the "only actual authentic Baul to be known to do sadhana at Tarapith initiated by Bhama Kepa, and the only Baul to do sadhana at Kankali Tala where the villagers named him Khyapa Baba." You state that these stories and practices are the "intellectual property of this one and only lineage" and have been "appropriated for advertising purposes."

• Traditional Baul Practices vs. Nabani's: You explicitly differentiate, stating that "Bauls traditionally did not do the practices that Nabani Das Khyapa Baul did," further solidifying the unique nature of this specific lineage.

• Only Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Lineage: You declare this lineage to be the "only Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric lineage of Baul."

• Satya as First Tenet: You highlight "Satya" (truth) as the "first tenant of Baul," reinforcing the ethical foundation of your claims against fraudulent representations.

Theft of Baul Tattvas

• Copied from Babu Kishan's Notes: You directly accuse others of copying "Baul tattva's" (philosophical principles of Baul Tantra) from "Babu Kishan's notes" and "Purna Das Baul's book, 'Baul Philosophy'."

• No Prior Discussion of Tattvas: You stress that "no one ever taught or talked about Baul tattva's before" Babu Kishan's contributions.

• Purna Das Baul's Book Source: You reiterate that the Baul tattvas were "first written about by KD Babu Kishan" and then "copied into the book 'Baul Philosophy' by Purna Das Baul and Selina Thielemann who copied them directly from KD Babu Kishan notes left in the Calcutta home."

• Personal Proof and Documentation: You assert you have "proof" as Babu Kishan's wife, and have "documented everything for intellectual property theft and indigenous fraud purposes for 20 years," claiming "15,000 files regarding Baul" as evidence.

Broader Claims of Appropriation

• Systemic Copying: You describe a continuous process where "everything from this lineage is picked to the bone and remade as if the fake shilpi Bauls have lived this lineages lives."

• Indigenous Fraud and IP Theft: You explicitly label this behavior as "indigenous fraud" and "indigenous intellectual property theft," particularly concerning fundraising by non-indigenous individuals claiming to "preserve Baul" when it has already been preserved by Babu Kishan.

• "Kali Yuga" and Deception: You frame the current situation as a manifestation of "Kali Yuga," where "what is real appears as false, and what is false appears as real."

This statement serves as a preemptive strike, firmly establishing the intellectual and spiritual ownership of this specific Baul lineage's knowledge and history, and directly challenging anyone who attempts to replicate, repurpose, or profit from it without proper acknowledgment or lineage. The detailed accusation against Parvathy Baul, backed by alleged personal documentation, indicates a heightened level of direct confrontation.

https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/04/fake-pretendian-hawker-baul-critique.html

https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/02/indigenous-identity-theft-indigenous.html

BabuKishan.org

Defining the Authentic Baul Lineage

You unequivocally state that there is "not another" authentic lineage of Baul beyond that of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, Purna Das Baul, and Babu Kishan (Krishnendu Das Baul). You claim this lineage pioneered Baul in India during the freedom movement and globally from the 1950s onward.

Exclusive Baul Tantra and Sadhana

• "Mystic Baul Tantra, Tantra Mantra Gopi Yantra": You declare this to be the title of Babu Kishan's upcoming fourth book, asserting that its contents are copyrighted and exclusive to your lineage.

• Baul Avadhuta and Nabani's Unique Practices: You state that only Nabani Das Khyapa Baul was the authentic Baul Avadhuta, having performed sadhana (spiritual practice) at Tarapith (initiated by Bhama Kepa)and Kankali Tala, where villagers named him "Khyapa Baba." You emphasize that these stories and practices are the intellectual property of your lineage and have been illicitly used for advertising.

• Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Baul: You assert that your lineage is the "only Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric lineage of Baul."

• Distinction from Traditional Bauls: You explicitly state that "Bauls traditionally did not do the practices that Nabani Das Khyapa Baul did," highlighting the unique and pioneering nature of his spiritual path within the Baul tradition.

Thefts of Baul Tattvas

You reiterate your claim that Baul tattvas (philosophical principles) were first conceptualized and documented by Babu Kishan, whose notes were then copied into Purna Das Baul's book "Baul Philosophy" (co-authored with Selina Thielemann). You accuse others, specifically naming, of copying these tattvas and even the chapter titles for their workshops, despite having only a superficial understanding. You emphasize that the authentic teachings of Baul Tantra are profound and cannot be learned or taught through such superficial means. You state that you possess 15,000 files of documentation as proof of this intellectual property theft and indigenous fraud.

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Baul Philosophy, Practices, and Way of Life

You provide a detailed overview of various aspects of Baul practice, philosophy, and their unique characteristics:

• Satya (Truth): You declare "Satya" as the "first tenant of Baul," reinforcing the moral foundation of your argument against deceit and appropriation.

• Spiritual Bards and Philosophers: Bauls are described as "storyteller, mystic spiritual bards, philosophers, poets, tantrics, singers, dancers," walking the "path of the Avadhut."

• Dual and Nondual: Baul philosophy is both dual and nondual.

• Worship of Shakti (Feminine Divine): Vaishnava Bhakti Tantric Bauls of Birbhum prioritize the worship of the feminine divine (Shakti), including Radha before Krishna, and Kali before Shiva. Saraswati (Sarada Maa) is also highly revered.

• Sattvic Lifestyle: Traditionally, Bauls were sattvic, characterized by long hair in a top knot (for men), and for women, long hair pulled back. They lived a sweet, vegetarian Vaishnava lifestyle, often as farmers with cows.

• Nabani Das Khyapa Baul's Jata (Dreadlocks): You explain that Nabani's jata was a sign of his deep sadhana and Avadhut nature, as he spent years wandering in mountains (including to Nepal, Tibet, and Vrindavan), not for style or attraction. He shaved them later in life once he had a brain stroke.

• Two Types of Baul:

  • Ghrihi Baul: Householders living in community, engaging in sweet, sattvic, right-handed Tantric practices.

  • Udasi Baul: Wandering ascetics (mostly male due to cultural context), free spirits, often engaging in more open sanga (company) around the dumi (fire pit). Udasi Bauls can attain high levels of mystical sadhanaeven without a partner.

• Rasa Tattva: You elaborate on this profound Tantric technique, quoting Ramakrishna's analogy of refining sugar syrup. It involves distilling all experiences into "ecstatic intoxicating honey and juice," creating paradoxical, riddle-filled songs. "One song is a seed for a whole discourse, one song is the whole Bhagavad Gita." This process is rooted in rhythm, as "our life is based on rhythm."

• The Rasa Lila Mystics as Trance Music: You connect the lineage to trance music and dance, emphasizing their connection to nature and instruments made from natural materials.

• Bauls as "Spiritual Newspaper and Internet": Historically, Bauls freely shared their knowledge, never anticipating the modern era of copyright infringement and the "watering down" and "reduction" of their tradition. You acknowledge that times have changed, and Bauls must adapt.

• Baul Yantra (Gopi Yantra): This is specifically defined as the ektara, a one-stringed instrument symbolizing peace and unity. It's called "Gopi Yantra" because your Vaishnava Sahajiya Tantric Baul lineage are Gosia Chand (Chandra), connecting it to Krishnendu Das. The instrument is treated as a Deity, infused with Shakti through sadhana, and is a "trance instrument" that induces divine love and yearning.

Detailed Baul Sadhana (Practices)

You provide a detailed (though incomplete) list of Baul sadhanas and tattvas, emphasizing that these are exclusive to your lineage:

• Baul Sadhana: Inner vision, mystical out-of-body movement, developed intuition, setting up the altar of the heart, bringing Deities alive in the body, Kali/Tara/Shiva Sadhana, Mantra, Music & Sound healing, knowledge of Deity stories.

• Baul Darshan: Philosophy distilling all Indian philosophies into simple songs and discourses.

• Sadhana of Tattvas: Knowledge of the universe, including 108 tattvas (beyond the usual 25 or 36).

• Manush Sadhana (Manaba Dharma): Practices teaching humanity, peacemaking, unity of cultures, caste, and creed, and universal love/acceptance.

• Guru Tattva: Importance of the Guru, who teaches through song, and the concept of Joy Guru.

• Nayika Sadhana / Partner Sadhana: Focus on the soulmate, constant mystical love, strong attachment, poetic thought directed to the partner, deep yogic focus, soul-to-soul connection (not primarily physical).

• Rati Car-Dande Sadhana, Kama & Kamini Sutra: Advanced mystical yoga, not unconscious sex. "Rati Sangam" for mystical union. Requires awakened energy channels and open Kundalini (flowing waves of bliss). Udasi Bauls can achieve this without a partner.

• Lila Tattva: Mystical love between Radha and Krishna, inner dance on the altar of the heart, an esoteric Vaishnava Baul Tantric practice.

• Pra or Poro Tattva: Knowledge of others (face reading, prasna, mystical knowing, vastu).

• Rasa Tattva: Grinding and juicing all experience (as described above), taught under a Baul Guru over lifetimes.

• Atma Tattva: Self-realization, God realization, various forms of samadhi, knowledge of the soul (monar manush), and eternal nature.

• Vayu Dharma: Pranayama, controlling the wind (linking to Hanuman-ji), unique techniques, crucial as "Baul" itself comes from "Vayu."

• Deha Tattva: Knowledge of the body (yoga, Sankhya philosophy, elements, gunas, anatomy, koshas, energy centers/chakras—with distinct Baul interpretations), Ayurveda, remedies, herbs. Baul includes 108 tattvas here.

• Shakti Sadhana: Worship of the feminine divine, high respect for women, famous women Bauls as equals. Tantric techniques for worshiping Kali Maa, Radha, Tara Maa, Saraswati, Mahavidya, Durga Maa.

• Samgita and Nitya Sadhana: Music and dance, deep Tantra of Indian music and sound healing, highest Tantra.

• Bhava Sadhana: Understanding moods and emotions, noting differences between Indian Bhakti and Western expressions due to ancestral memory.

• Guruvada: Learning from the Guru, Guru shishya parampara sampradaya.

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Historical Tribute and Confrontation of Fraud

You offer a historical tribute to the lineage, particularly from the 1920s with Nabani Das Khyapa Baul's involvement in the Indian Freedom Movement (singing for Nehru and at the 1947 inauguration of India). You highlight Purna Das Baul's pioneering cultural programs globally (Russia in the 1950s, USA from 1967 with Laxman Das Baul and "The Bauls of Bengal"). You credit Babu Kishan for composing and recording over 80% of Purna Das Baul's famous music from the 1970s.

The "Big Pink" Story

You recount a vivid anecdote from Purna Das Baul and Laxman Das Baul's first trip to America in 1967, sent by Nabani Das Khyapa Baul at Allen Ginsberg's request. They stayed at "The Big Pink" (Bob Dylan's and The Band's home studio in Woodstock, NY). The story vividly describes the Bauls' unfamiliarity with packaged and frozen food, and the spontaneous gathering of a crowd (not bears!) drawn to their mystical music, indicating its powerful effect.

Babu Kishan's Unique Qualifications

You reinforce Babu Kishan's exceptional background:

• Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's Reverence for Baul: You include powerful quotes from Ramakrishna about Baul as the "ultimate" path, a "complete university," and the "most advanced path of tantric sadhana," even expressing a desire to be reborn as a Baul.

• Babu Kishan's Ramakrishna Monkhood: You highlight Babu Kishan as the "only Baul to be a monk in Ramakrishna order in Calcutta for 12 years," where he learned insider stories about Ramakrishna from older monks who knew Nabani.

• Academic and Musical Mastery: You emphasize his MA in Indian Music from Calcutta University, his mastery of various Indian music forms (folk, classical, Bollywood, bhajan, kirtan, Baul), and his composition of over 150 scores for Indian Cinema.

• Global Advocacy: You state that since the early 1970s, Babu Kishan has been a "vocal adversary regarding all the wrong things that have been written about Baul," acting as a Guru and scholar, and criticizing outsiders who claim authority over his tradition through mere academic study.

Continuing Accusations of Fraud

You reiterate that "all (pretendian) Baul have followed this one and only lineage," copying their songs, style, history, Babu Kishan's teachings, music recordings, cinema career, and monkhood. You accuse them of trying to "remake the wheel of Baul history and herstory," even deleting the names of legendary Baul women like Manju Das, Brajabala Dasi, and Radharani Das.

You assert that without this specific 13+ generation lineage, "no one in this world would know about Baul."

Final Warnings

You conclude with powerful warnings against:

• "Hawkers": Those who constantly change their approach, seeking attention, recruiting people, fundraising, and forming fake foundations. You call them "idea thieves" and "hunters ready to poach."

• False Marketing: You highlight their use of "flipper advertising stories" and "one liners bragging about how much they travel" as disconnected from genuine Baul reality.

• "Baul Master" Title: You declare "Baul Master" to be a made-up title, as there has "never been" such a thing.

• Consequences: You forewarn that all appropriation and fraud will be "qualified and reclaimed one by one," as "Masters at appropriated be for-warned all will be revealed, you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all of time."

Your statement is a comprehensive and deeply felt articulation of the perceived crisis facing the authentic Baul tradition due to widespread cultural appropriation and intellectual property theft. It serves as both a detailed expose and a protective declaration for your specific lineage.

 TRIBUTE - 50 years ago the Bauls of Bengal came to America

Press photo 1967 Arrivals Calcutta airport

The legendary brothers Purna Das Baul and the late (2015) Laxman Das Baul arrived in America 50 years ago and arrived back home in Calcutta to a huge fan fare in their new suit coats. 

* They are the first Tantrics and Bauls to arrive in America. All Bauls copy and follow this lineage because this lineage has the historical roots of Baul not only for the Bauls but for the world. No one in India or outside would know about Baul if it were not for these pioneering Baul who brought Baul and Tantra to the world.

* Purna Das Baul is the first accomplished Indian Vocalist to arrive in America. 

* They are the first oldest living Lineage of Bhakti Yoga and Kirtan to arrive in America. 

                        A story about that first trip to America

It should be noted the Bauls first came to America on request of Allen Ginsberg whose Guru was Nabani Das Khyappa Baul, Ginsberg had requested that the Grossman's bring Nabani Das Khyappa Baul to America. Nabani was not well and did not want to leave India so he sent his two son's Baul Samarat Purna Das Baul and Laxman Das Baul. This is a story as told to Babu Kishan by his late uncle Laxman Das Baul. The Bauls of Bengal as a musical group came to America for the first time in late 1966, early 1967 they stayed at a home studio called "The Big Pink"in Woodstock New York this was the home studio for Bob Dylan and the Band. 

As usual upon awakening first thing in the morning the Bauls start their music  sadhana playing their Gopi Yantra (ektara) and Khamak (mystic drum) after a few hours Sudhananda Das Baul went to the kitchen to see if they could figure out what to do with this packaged food and frozen food source they were left with and had never seen in their life. They didn't have a clue how to open the packages or what the food was in the freezer even was, probably frozen packaged chunks of meat,  they were vegetarians. They were confused wondering we are hungry what do we do and also, wondering when Albert Grossman was coming back, they were just left at the house and told to help themselves? The scariest thing on their mind was if they went outside bears would eat them up, the place was called Bearsville.

As Sudhananda Das Baul was in the kitchen he glanced outside he was shocked to see at least 100 people enjoying and blissfully dancing right there on the lawn in front this house. They were not bears they were humans. The house was in the middle of farm land in a no where land in Woodstock NY. They had no idea what was going on or how these people came to be outside. Where did they come from? 

Simultaneously Robbie Robertson was driving by in his car past the property and saw all the people and wondered what heck is all the commotion,  he drove in asking the people what are you people doing here? They said, we heard the music I don't know what it is but we just were magically mysteriously drawn here, this sound is different, it is the first time we have heard this divine ecstatic music it has a mystical pulling power and it pulled us here, we were just drawn unconsciously like the pied piper pulled us here. 

Bob Dylan the First Western Baul,  Purna Das Baul and Lakshman Das Baul, far left man unknown, 1966/67 Woodstock NY

The very next day on Robbie Robertsons request Bob Dylan and the Band show up with all their instruments. When the Bauls first saw them they were puzzled, they thought wow a new group is coming here I guess they are going to move us to another place. However, Bob Dylan and The Band had only come to the Big Pink at this time to jam with The Bauls of Bengal on Robbie Robertson's advice. 

Bob Dylan and the Band recorded the album, "The Bauls at the Big Pink" the Bauls did not know they were being recorded. It should be known that the Bauls never knew who Bob Dylan was and only Lakshman Das Baul spoke a few words of English.

After this Bob Dylan was named and started to call himself, "The first Western Baul”. Many others came out of the woodwork and called themselves the first Western Baul only Bob Dylan is the first western Baul by name only and I am sure he has better things to do than present himself as such. There is no such thing as a western Baul, to be a eastern or western Baul first you have to be indigenous to Baul, have some ancestry in Baul? Baul is extinct? You can not fake Baul, sorry, you may be able to fake many things today, having a million likes on social media and pasting your picture all over does not make you a Baul. The first tenant of Baul is Satya, tell the truth, no truth, no Baul?

Copyright all rights reserved, no poaching or name dropping on youtube videos of Babu Kishan's stories that only he knows and has told, they are his stories not yours to take the names off, and present as if you are the one that knows? 

There is no such think as a Baul Master or Baul artist, that is new way that pretendian Bauls appropriate this pioneering indigenous lineage, so they can use this lineage for shameless advertising? It is all very interesting how pretendian Bauls who said Baul was from Turkey, Baul is Buddhist now are decorated in Vaishnava  markings tilika never before and now they love Krishna? Do your research, they never mentioned Baul Kirtan now they  are? There has always been appropriation of this lineage but it has become a virus of copying proportions?  The songs of this lineage, appropriating Nabani Das Khyapa Baul style, you do the research. The blind leading the blind in a whirl of self promotion?

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Early Life of Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das - Untold Story

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Do not copy and take the names off, no poaching !

Copy right, all rights reserved, I don't understand what part of that is not understood? Do not copy or use names from Babu's life, his stories, with his name taken off, or his families names, their stories are being used but no names mentioned, just generalizations and name dropping??

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Indigenous Fraud and Indigenous Identity theft!

https://lineagebaul.blogspot.com/2025/02/indigenous-identity-theft-indigenous.html

Babu Kishan is the eldest Grandson of Brajabala and Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, he grew up on the soil of Birbhum Bengal with all the Bauls of the 1960's, who were from an earlier time, some were born in the 1800's he is the only 'lineage holder 'of his one and only Lineage. He is the unknown behind the scene eldest son of Purna Das Baul and Manju Dasi. 

You may not know Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul because he is way older than any of the people speaking about Baul today. These new Baul fundraising people, cherry pick stories, stories from Babu's life. 

They like to generalize and use his stories but always take his name off? The songs they sing are from his lineage. Krishnendu Das has also, written thousands of Baul poetry, they sing without even knowing who wrote the poetry? It is not about us and them, it is about integrity and honesty.

The general response is, Baul does not care who wrote the poetry, which is not true. A Baul always knows where the songs and poetry come from. A new Baul fundraiser would of course say Baul does not care, because they are not from Baul nor is their Baul Guru a Baul Guru, but they sure know how to market themselves, how to change the narrative.

Please do not mention Bob Dylan it is not your story to tell, stop cherry picking Nabani's name, when his name has been taken off all the songs you sing, and his style Ektara (Gopi Yantra) Baya (drum attached to his waist, Nupoor (ankle bells) is copied but yet, a new lineage made up??? Better, yet stop copying everything and labeling it as if you are the first?

Do not mix anything about this lineage with your fake made up lineage, stop it. If you do not know Babu Kishan and have never talked to him, please do not copy and paste anything without his permission. 

I know it sounds crazy but what is going on today is crazier.

Bob Dylan is Babu Kishan's story to tell as he lived it, you do not know what you are talking about or even alluding to and it is all speculation. 

Again, cherry picking name dropping to make a made up lineage? Making it look like they are part of this lineages stories, for what fundraising for a singing career, maybe a famous Baba or Maa? 

I suggest you preserve your own families stories.

Same with Nabani, Babu Kishan's aka Krishnendu Das's Grandfather and 'Guru' as he has direct initiation by 'Nabani Khyapa Baul'. Babu Kishan is the one who talked about Naboni in his family, he is the only one who preserved all. 

There are no other lineage holders within Baul! 

There are no other lineages, there are only others who followed this lineage, their songs, their dance, and followed them around the world. When you follow a lineage and take the names of the lineage off and try to reconstruct a lineage based on fundraising to preserve Baul it is dishonest. 

Babu knew every Baul since the 1960's, who is who and he obviously is being pushed to speak the truth on who is who. 

How would you feel if we took your family stories and made them as our own? There is so much generalization, speculation and out and out changing of the Baul cultural narrative. 

Yes, it is cultural theft. Not preserving because you would know the names of the poets, and at least not change your narrative as to what Babu Kishan says or does?

Babu has said, over and over, stop using his stories or allude to them and making vague connections that never existed, that is cheating and then telling people to come and join you? Join, what and donate for what so that we have another fake Baba and Maa?

Babu Kishan preserved Baul decades ago, it is safe with him, Baul does not need another saviour outsider, to preserve what has already been done?

"We are living in a time when people have a short attention span. I think we are down to 1 or 3 minutes attention spans at the most. 

The people talking about Baul have a very shallow understanding of Baul, watering down and reducing the essence of Baul because they never had it. Cherry picking names like Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg, Rolling Stone AND Naboni they allude, copy and paste as if they know as if they are the ones, that is intellectual property theft. Even Rabindranath Tagore a name only associated with Nabani Das Khyapa Baul?

They use of Nabani's name as if they know, how can they? Nabani was a professor at Vishva Bharti, the only person that has ever said that, is Babu Kishan, yes that is cherry picking, name dropping, using what is copyright!

Jumping to conclusions fast, and they focus on drama acting and appearance rather than truth and facts regarding Baul because they do not know, so they name drop. 

They make it up as they go, smiling sweet smiles when honestly they are like new western fitness Yogi cherry picking with no depth, just fundraising. They use names like legendary, pioneering when it is not theirs to claim, they follow Babu around the world, meet his friends. Babu Kishan is the only pioneer of teaching Baul at Universities, now that is what they follow even though they are not qualified.

Fake researcher with BIG 'youtube marketing skills', peddling nonsensical theories, name dropping that which has nothing to do with your fake lineage. Look out Babu Kishan is just getting started he will write more, speak more on all the old Baul followers who followed this lineage, he has watched and seen how all the people who are trying to follow Baul who have made up stories for decades, this is nothing new.

Yes, this eldest son almost 60 years old, son of a famous Baul Purna Das Baul but more importantly the last lineage holder of his lineage that has been nurtured protected for thousands of years and the his Guru who is Nabani Das Khyapa Baul. 

Babu Kishan is way more than a Baul though he is a Master of India Music and Music Composer a Vaishnava Baul Tantric, an oral Sanskritist, Classical Sanskritist and so much more. He truly is in the world but not of the world.

#Indian & #WestBengal’s most oldest #Lineage !!

When #SanatanDharma introduced in #Earth, #BaulLineage started along with, but from #ShriChsiranyaMahaprabhu biggest Vashnava philodopher started to promote # Vaishnavism, which was so tough to debate with other Panditya. Chaitanya found a great Baul friend with him and made easier way to promote with Harinaam Sankirtan who is our ancestor Nitai (Nityananda). 

When Chaitanyadev had problem to gathering millions of people with his knowledge and scholarship, the older Nitai a Baul Avadhut who is an ancestor of this Baul lineage, helped him with Vaishnava Baul Hari Nam Baul singing (kirtan) and dancing or #VaishnavaSahajaya way to reach everyone’s heart.

I am the #9th Generations of #Nityananda Mahaprabhu JoyGuru JaishriNitai

Today real and original Baul Lineage or Tradition almost extinct from Earth. Oh yes after a huge promoting Bauls in the World through our family, when Real Baul was limited and rapidly disappearing as like other historical value.

#Birbhum only was the Pithostan of Bauls of Bengal, and some academic people mixed up with everything for their thesis to get easily doctorate on Baul subject from collecting from others, now some only sing Baul Songs but mostly folk songs, and more people becoming with Baul dressing up, some are trying to re introduce Baul making up new lineages that never ever were before.

Don’t know why when my family already promoted and introduced and that is the only reason some are trying to change the narrative? 

Through our dancing and talking teaching we created a template with the strongest concrete platform which was made byus, and all due to us, was not easy but hardworking with a mission, which made much easier for others and new comers or next generations.

Not all but some singing good too, everything is practice if they like to have good voice.

When come to the Baul who will know more & better than me ??

Remember no matter what way now go or collecting, fundraising with dramas, cannot change or delete the original History the Baulhistory at all !!

Don’t know who’s writing about Baul on Wikipedia total wrong

Who’s writing on Wikipedia total wrong.

Academic are only concerned about their thesis so they can get a recognition as Doctorate to have a fair life with standard, when they don’t know anything than a false education. I even watched Edward Dimock to now all just copy & paste culture, they have very limited knowledge about Baul and their already missed the real essence of original Bauls.

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