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Thursday, February 8, 2018

Cultural Appropriation or Cultural Appreciation

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​Baul is Extinct.
Let us examine Why?


What cultural appropriation is:
telling someone elseʼs stories without consent or by cheating and making up stories and lineages that never existed.


What cultural appropriation isnʼt: 
Creating characters that are different than your cultural, ethnic background.

What cultural appropriation is:
extracting a narrative, story, history outside of its full context, often for capitalistic or political gain. 


What cultural appropriation isnʼt: 
censorship and/or the antithesis of free speech.
Sing the songs but be accurate and give credit where the song or information came from and do not just say it is a Folk song because you first have to be a Master of Folk Music to understand what is Folk and what is not.


What cultural appropriation is:
Dismantling any sense of authenticity a cultural narrative possesses, changing the narrative and making it us as you by what you read next. Authority is in the lineage not outside in a fake  lineage that cuts the names of the true lineage holders off and replaces them with your story for only your benefit.
​The use of lineage when there in fact never was a lineage is used to mislead
and attract people. Taking someones story and making it your own, as in the example: Baul is associate with Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and Rabindranath Tagore, this is inaccurate because these Bauls have specific names, Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, Purna Das Baul, Laxshman Das Baul and Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul. No other Bauls were associated with any of these people and many more. No other Bauls yet you will read over and over 'Baul is associated with"?


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When you appreciate a culture you keep it in context, you do not use it for your benefit. You preserve what you can, one does not make up stories chopping the historical roots of the tradition off and adding new names. Taking the songs of the tradition adding new made up names to Nabani Das Baul songs and making up lineages that never ever existed. Lineage is not a one of two generation it goes way back. You do not take the names of the story off and replace it with other names. You do not take credit for that which you do not own.

In the context of The Vaishnava Bauls of Birbhum Bengal, Cultural MisAppropriation is a real thing, it is not just appropriated by westerners but new singers who use Baul and have pretended to be Baul as a way to become famous using Baul as a way to survive.  These fakes  are not Baul Masters or from a lineage. Foreigners are easily fooled they are attracted by the exotic posers, therefore, they get sucked into an exotic look thinking that is Baul, my dear it is not. They dress like Baul and all they do is sing, some are good singer some are not, they are tourist attractions and  panhandlers.



"Cultural MIS-appropriation occurs when elements of a marginalized culture in this case 'The Bauls' are taken and used by another culture with a huge sense of entitlement attached. That unhealthy sense of entitlement is obvious when an individual cannot even accept criticism
from members of the culture they're appropriating from."  


It all starts off innocently enough, but over time there is a deconstruction of the narrative. It is like gossip by the time it gets to the end of the line it is completely different and has no resemblance to the original. This does not mean Baul will never change but it must adapt within its context in its own narrative not the narrative of new Baul singers or Scholars of a different language and culture.

Scholars may appear as well intentioned but over the years Babu Kishan has met many and when he has tried to correct many of the University level PHD Scholars who did their thesis on Baul and wrote  books, these same scholars do not want to hear about this, they have already written their books and they are the ones that know. These scholars have been outright dismissive, an attitude of (we know better than you, our white privilege makes us smarter than you because you are just an illiterate Baul.")

No one ever thought that the real Baul's were literate, now that the world knows more about Sanskrit, if you can speak 'oral Sanskrit' then perhaps a real 'Lineage Baul' can allow you into the conversation, Bauls were not illiterate they were Sanskrit speakers in an oral tradition. Bauls are the greatest of philosophers and Guru's. They are Oral Sanskritist's and born on the soil in the soul of Birbhum India. Sanskrit from birth gives one a genius memory, more literate and advanced than any English literature speaking person, this was not understood until recent times by outsiders.

Baul does NOT originate from Buddhism! This is the latest pass around the internet by an outsider who wants to be famous by looking exotic, what right do they have to pass around this and yet the exotic looks and spinning create a great watering down of this 
tradition. 

 Baul is Genius not a beggar or cigarette seller, snack seller, refugee or dread locked exotic whirling Baul who steals Baul songs and makes up a lineage. An authentic Baul is a genuis Baul Guru and should produce something great, poetry, music, a Baul is an intellectual genius not a regular speaker."

Baul does not originate from Islam! Persia, Bangladesh, Turkey of any other place other than Birbhum.

Baul is a highest level spiritual messenger (Guru) they used to go village to village to give past, present and future, entering the village with their wake up call the Hare Krishna Mahamantra. They were given Dakshina, they never begged, wandering minstrel (Guru's) but they had their own land and cows. They speak the whole the Bhagavad Gita through a song, they did this so that the oral tradition was down to earth singing in Bengali to the villagers in the language they could understand, taught so that people could remember these ancient teachings, they did not or should not sing to impress anyone."

The real crime of 'identity theft' starts much earlier for the Vaishnava Bauls, it comes from the New Age Vaishnava who appropriated the Vaishnava Baul tradition back in the late 1800's. They had a good intention perhaps but the languaging they used to describe the Bauls and other sects was not at all the language a born or inborn Vaishnava Baul would use. These were Bengali's who were British educated and learned Sanskrit later in their life and learned about Vaishnava later in life. It started as trying to preserve and probably because the Christian English were there they tried to compete or do the same with Vaishnavism turning it into an intolerant circle. Then when it came to with West well that is another story for perpetuated Cultural appropriation. The intention perhaps was not for this to happen but this is what happens when another Culture reinterprets an ancient tradition. It changes the original.

"Baul was never and is not a beggar."

​If Baul (was) a beggar why would all the top Scholars and Intellectuals including Rabindranath Tagore, Allen Ginsberg, Gopinath Kaviraj, Satyajit Ray, Kavi Nazrul, Nehru, Indira Gandhi all the top Musicians, Spiritual Gurus,  Politicians of India and the world, why would they be associated with and hold them up high for their genius brain and creativity. The so called New Bauls singers are not Baul.

​Nabani Das Khyapa Baul is the only Baul that had anything to do with Tagore. It was Nabani who intimated Tagore into Baul giving him the name Ravi (Robi) Baul. Tagore appointed Nabani as the only Baul Professor at his University in Shantiniketan and took famed photo's of Nabani, they were best friends. Tagore even had Ram Kinkar Baj sculpt a statue of Nabani that still stand there today. The famed photo of Nabani is on the front page of this web site take by Tagore. This family performed at all Tagore Societies around the world.

People used the Bauls genuis and creativity and then degraded them and now people are posing as Baul and begging. People took from Baul and then because they took what did not belong to them and called them degraded. This is cultural Appropriation taking the names Das and Dasi and giving you names and you their Kirtan, taking the names off and elevating yourself but putting down the roots of Baul. The only roots of Baul are in Birbhum, they are the indigenous peoples of the land of Rarh even before Sri Chaitanya and this families ancestor Sri (Nitai) Nityananda they were Baul for thousands of years based on Sanatan Dharma Radha and Krishna, Kali and Shiva.

"Baul should be a 
genius, Baul is not illiterate." they were Sanskrit Scholars and Guru's, the final stop on the path.

​Even Ramakrishna Paramahamsa said, he wanted to be born a Baul in his next life. 
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The real authentic Baul is gone they were mystical and never do what is happening today,
you will see many tourist attraction Bauls in Birbhums villages but they are not real Bauls, they are tourist attractions. Nobody even knows where they came from?

Please know that what truths I say about Baul has come from Babu Kishan. I am his speaker,  he speaks a multitude of languages including Oral Sanskrit, Bengali, Hindi and English, I write what he speaks to me. Babu Kishan is the pioneer of Baul what people know about Baul they know about Baul from him and his family. Babu Kishan never did for him he did for Bauls to try to make them on track, to give them a track.

These are Babu Kishan's stories, his Knowledge and Wisdom. If
 it were not for Babu Kishan nobody of todays would know about Baul (period). He gave all new Baul singers a platform. All Bauls follow this lineage, this lineage does not follow others.

Before many of you were born, before we had internet and telephone he was busy writing letters and it wasn't easy in those days to take Baul to the world. He and his family opened the door for new Baul singers to even enter the door of Baul. There is no other lineage of Baul, this is a complete lie made up by some new Baul singer, this is a complete cultural appropriation which Babu Kishan will speak about in upcoming months.

All the Baul songs that the new Bauls are singing today are because Babu Kishan recorded them, because his father and family recorded them on India's first record company Hindustan Records.

You can ask Babu Kishan any question and he can qualify anything you ask about Indian Music or Baul. It is his tradition, it is his Sampradya, please email any question or sign up for our newsletter at the bottom of the pages. 

Hrid Majahare Rakhbo is the poetry of his Grandfather and Guru, "Baul Saint Avadhuta Sri Nabani Das Khyapa Baul', it is his poetry, many are making up stories and lies now but remember nobody would be singing this song or even know about it, if this family didn't record it first, this can be proven!

I do not consider myself a Baul, I am a perpetual student of all things India.

I am only allowed to know the inner secrets because of marriage to Babu Kishan and my unrelenting keen interest as a seeker.

Appropriation is not about artistic licence or freedom of expression.

It is about
 skimming ideas from another culture or (tradition) to boost your own currency, without taking the time to research with compassion, is not creativity when you take this lineages songs, take their stories and make them your own. By taking their names out of the narrative and making it like you are the one. You did not win a Padma Shri that was Purna Das Baul, you did not meet Allen Ginsberg that was Babu Kishan. You did not play on the most prestigious stages of India and the world, do you even know what the most prestigious stages are? You do not have perfect pitch and tone.... LOL Babu Kishan is a music composer, he has an ear fro music and you do not have perfect pitch and tone.

Western do not know the language and very few know the music or the real tradition of Baul. They do not know what a real Baul is supposed to be or look like, that is why I caution all to be careful, even if they have siddhi and energy today anybody can have siddhi's and energy with practice. I practiced for ten years with a Kung Fu Grand Master, anybody can gain power and energy, it is the wisdom part that you must work for, it is the Rasa part that must be distilled.

Taking ones culture can be the same as an identity theft, it creates a superficial understanding of what Baul is and it distorts the original watering it down bit by bit this is called reductionism.  Baul is from the soul it is not acting and drama, it has nothing to do with holding an Ektara and little drum and twirling relentlessly, this is not Baul it is acting.

Baul is indigenous to Birbhum it took thousands of years to hold, carry and preserve Baul in the oral Sanskrit and now in Bengali too. They have lived through the Islamist, the British and now there is a group of Refugee's, and others who now are only new Baul singers making up stories and singing the songs that belong to this tradition.


These new Baul singers have taken this Lineage Baul songs and are presenting as if they were their own with no respect or narrative of where the Baul song has come from they claim it as their own. The narrative and the actions are they have basically added their own name or just called it a folk song so that it is general and nobody will ever know where it came from. 

This is the most blatant case of Cultural MISAppropriation, this is how history is destroyed and traditions are watered down. However, coming soon we will show that these songs are the poetry of this lineage, they have already been recorded long long ago. Social media is great but it also, leaves the door open to dishonest and cultural theft.

 The new Bauls have changed the narrative of some thousands of years of an oral 
tradition that has been preserved by this lineage. In those days there was no copyrighting of songs or poetry. The narrative is watered down, this is the biggest tragedy of our time.

The Baul tradition want all people to enjoy and be part of this Baul tradition this is the true way of Baul to include all and to bring people together.  The Vaishnava Bauls were the spiritual messengers, Guru's and the newspaper before the newspapers and modern media. They were the original Hare Krishna singers and dancers, Das and Dasi (Gosai, Gosain,). They only begged for the Divine and were never illiterate they were oral Sanskrit Scholars. There are huge misconceptions and a ripping off of the songs of this tradition.

There needs to a basis point of what and who the Bauls are and that can only come from a Baul Guru within the tradition.  Bauls are peacekeepers between all peoples.  Baul is universal in many ways but there is a lineage to this secularism. Bauls are unique to their own ways, let us not throw the baby out with the bath water.


The Baul Ekktara also, called Gopi Chand or Gopi Yantra is their symbol of Unity. 

The 
Gopi Yantra

The Vaishnava Bauls of Birbhum Bengal use a yantra called the Gopi Yantra or Gopi Chand also known as the Ektara, a one stringed instrument that is the Baul symbol of peace and unity for the Bauls of Birbhum Bengal. The gopi yantra originates from this living lineage of Vaishnava Baul the lineage of Sri Nitai (Nityananda) of Ekachakra Birbhum Bengal India.

The Gopis are the lovers of Krishna, when Krishna would play his flute they would go mad with divine love and come running to Krishna. The sound of the Baul Gopi Yantra can make one mad with divine desire of love, the Gopi Yantra is a trance
instrument.

This one and only authentic real Baul Lineage's practices, songs, way of life and stories have been looted, their names taken off, and their stories used with names off, such as Baul knew Bob Dylan and Allen Ginsberg and other, no you Bauls did not only this lineage these names did, Nabani Das Baul, Purna Das Baul, Manju Dasi, Lakshman (the one and only) and Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu.

​The Baul the initiated Rabindranath Tagore was Nabani Das Baul. Lalon Fakir is not a Baul, he is a great poet. I will qualify all this as to why he is really not a Baul but a Fakir or Shah and what that means, Baul is different even if he was born a Hindu. A Baul is not a Muslim and never was, Bauls and Fakirs, Shah, Dervish are different not to be confused.

Why do these wrong stories persist?
Just as one scholar in Bangladesh build his case on who the Bauls are and his biggest example is Baba Pagala, well let me tell you, he was not a Baul. How do I know he used to hang around this family at their home. He used to babysit Babu Kishan and his brothers. He was an admirer of Baul he never called himself a Baul. He had his own following, Babu Kishan used to compose music for him.

This is Cultural MISAppropriation.

In the context of Cultural Appropriation I am talking about respecting and preserving this ancient tradition in its proper context, because it on the brink of extinction it is not helpful when fake new Baul singer make up stories and lately new lineages, the stories grow daily. There is no other lineage of Baul, there is only one lineage and this is it. Lineage is not one or ten generations we are talking thousands of years as lineage in the context of Sanatana Dharma.

Being a Baul does not mean you have to dress the part or act in this day times have changed. Baul comes from within the authority of Baul comes from within the Sampradaya not from outsider. Some of the greatest Bauls today just wear normal western clothing, there is no need for dread locks or Jata, this is just fashion. Baul women never had jata but go ahead just be clear it is a fashion statement. A secular society  can be a healthy society. It is when an outsider takes and makes outlandish claims, saying they are the real and misleading people, especially the younger generation who has not got a clue and foreigners. This is happening all over the world today not just in Baul.

It is important to preserve the Folk Traditions, Traditions such as Baul in context of this lineage and their song because everybody is singing their songs, everything has to come from somewhere.   Where did you think these Baul songs came from, you heard them on the radio or on a record because someone took the time to record them because they belonged to them. Now everybody sings their songs, records their songs but lays claim to what is not theirs. There is only one lineage of Baul do not be misled by new singers who make up stories. I have seen this lineage completely Cultural Appropriated over a 12 year period and Babu Kishan has watched over a 50 years period. He has done more than anyone to preserve this tradition but at each corner there has been a road block. Now is the time for the Real stories and the Real Authentic History to come forward in a fair and honest way.

This is why Babu Kishan has created the 'EKTARA FOUNDATION' to preserve the Folk Traditions and his own Baul Lineage to maintain the truth and integrity of these traditions and his own Lineage. This has been his dream since the 1970's and thus to keep it intact he will be oversee the whole project without any interference from his family in Kolkata. No other family members will be involved and he will select a board of well respected scholars and highly respected trust worthy individuals to make this come to fruition.

He tried to do this in the 1980's but was derailed by family members. There has been outsiders who lied making up stories about Baul to accumulate huge sums of money from the United Nations, distorting Baul completely. If your family, preserved something for thousands of years and other came chipped away, watered down, culturally appropriated what has been in your family for thousands of years, how would you feel?

What is mean is that by taking the stories of this tradition, taking the songs, making up stories it dilutes and waters down, it reduces the authentic tradition. Making up lineages that do not even exist. Taking their songs and putting different poets names on them or just labeling the folk music. Someone composed those songs, if you are a real Baul, you would know who, you would be honest and say, oh yes this was recorded before by the name of the singer. You would tell the truth that you are singing a Nabani Das Baul, a Purna Das Paul song from the over 5 decades his songs have been recorded. Instead of posing and being a poser faking people out, tell the truth, know the truth.

There has been people riding on the back of the pioneers of the people who brought Baul out of the village to the world. They are destroying Baul using it as a way to cheat people. They say Baul is from Bangladesh, they say it originates in Buddhism. They call themselves Khapa Baul when there is and only was one Khyapa Baul. They are making up lineages that do not exist. The Western Bauls have never had a real Baul Guru and they say everything in Baul corresponds to another thing in the west?

​This is a complete dismissing and huge misunderstand of what Baul is. If you take one Sanskrit word there is no correspondence to on English word. Indian Culture is different from Western Culture. The songs they sing are different. talk about watering down one English song and dance is the same as One Baul song and dance. There is no correspondence because Baul song and dance is related to Indian Devata, it comes from the sounds of Bengali and Sanskrit for Baul Kirtan. You have to have the proper initiation by a Baul Guru a real Paul Guru who is from inside of the tradition and this initiation is not a one or two or a year meeting. It is a lifetime of the flow of thousands of years.

It is time that we all understand what Cultural Appropriation is and how it has deep lasting effects on the indigenous and cultural narratives of people of the planet. There is a wave going on across the planet where certain traditions are being watered down, reduced to ashes, and distorted because of a new wave of outsiders who take and make up stories, they take songs, poetry without giving respect or understanding the deep roots these traditions have had to endure to carry on their songs and practices.

I will give some 
examples as to how to understand what Cultural Appropriation  and how it works. Since the Vaishnava Bauls originating from Ekchakra Birbhum Bengal are my subject I will explain how this has happened to them and how the internet, scholars and wikipedia are wrong when it comes to Baul and it feeds into the misconceptions that new Baul singers presenting to the world.
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Below is one basic, simplistic example: 

A SHORT DESCRIPTION OF CULTURAL APPROPRIATION FOR NON-BELIEVERS
RAJEEV BALASUBRAMANYAM

 1. Your new friends Bob and Rita come to lunch and you serve them idlis, like your grandmother used to make.

2. They love your south Indian cooking and ask for the recipe.
3. You never hear from Rita and Bob again.

4. You read in the Style section of the Guardian about Rita and Bob’s new Idli bar in Covent Garden… called ‘Idli.’

5. You visit Idli. The food tastes nothing like your grandmother’s.
6. Your grandmother dies.

7. Rita and Bob’s children inherit the Idli chain, and open several franchises in America.
8. Your children find work as short order chefs… at Idli.

9. Your children visit you in a nursing home and cook you idlis, which taste nothing like the ones you remember from your youth.

10. You compliment their cooking and ask for the recipe.

11. You die.

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President Pranab Mukerjee, Purna Das Paul and Manju Dasi

Let me be clear Cultural Appropriation is not just something foreigners do, It is has been happening to this Lineage of Bauls fro a very long time now. The Vaishnava Baul lineage is being Culturally Appropriated by New Baul singer, by outsiders making up stories and lineages.

One of the hall mark sign of Cultural Appropriation is the taking of the knowledge and then taking the names of the original names of the original people off and making it as if you were the ones. Let me explain, all over I see Baul has associated with Bob Dylan and Allen Ginsberg. No other Baul has, no  Bauls have except Babu Kishan and his Father. It has been Babu Kishan who was a friend of Allen Ginsberg for 2 decades, it was Babu Kishan who has maintained a long relationship with Bob Dylan. No Bauls in Bangladesh I see them associate themselves with Bob Dylan and Allen Ginsberg. No No they are not. Allen Ginsberg's Guru was Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and he keep that until his death.

​This lineage is the only pioneering lineage of Baul, everything they do is copied and their names taken off.

Babu worked in Bollywood for 35 years, now Bauls trying to say they are the ones. No you are not, maybe you sang a song but you did not have anything to do with Bollywood, read Babu Kishan bio on his web site, no Baul can compare to his talent. His father was the best Baul singer ever. His Grandfather the last authentic Baul who was a Rare Baul Saint and Avadhuta.

Now we see Bauls saying they are from a lineage when we know the Baul they are talking as their Guru is not from a lineage and what he learned about Baul is only from this lineage. Bauls wearing the dress of this lineage, trying to copy everything, even my writings, singing Nabani Das Bauls, Purna Das Baul and Babukishan's poetry and songs, without giving credit.

Changing the name of the poetry of Nabani Das Paul songs and calling them another poet.
Following this lineage but not giving credit, there is not other lineage of Baul, there are no Bauls from Bangladesh.

Bauls are not from Persia, they are not from Uzbekistan or Bangladesh, they are from going back thousands of year "Ekchakra Birbhum Bengal.
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Legendary Vaishnava Baul, Brajabala Das wife of Nabani Das Khyapa Baul

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Legendary sister daughter of Nabani Das khyapa Paul Radharani and her husband Gopal Das Baul the son of the Ekachakra Temple in Ekachakra Birbhum



Appropriation.
The word you’d better get used to.

Thanks to social media platforms, the voices of people affected by appropriation are finally being heard. But also, there is a down side, it has brought out all the fakes who want to be. There is a general distortion in what is real and what is not and with an over load of information people can not digest what is real and true.


​So what is appropriation?

Put simply, appropriation occurs when a dominant group uses the art, cultural or religious symbols, ideas and expressions from 'long-marginalized group' for their own benefit or enrichment.

I might add, taking their stories and adding your own name, is not only a cultural appropriation it is just wrong and shows a lack of respect. An aggressive expression of thievery.


Does it mean we can never wear each other’s clothes, tell each other’s stories, eat each other’s foods, celebrate each other’s festivals? Certainly not.
Cultures are fluid and we constantly appreciate and take from one another. 

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Appropriation shows disregard for another culture. You borrow one aspect of a culture — say, wearing corn rows or bindis, or using recipes — all the while seeing the culture itself as backward and “the other.” 



“By writing us one way, and not understanding us properly, you are mis-representing us and reinforcing harmful stereotypes.” 

Appropriation is a medium of oppression. 
For indigenous people, appropriation is continuous and unrelenting.



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​A message from Babu Kishan aka
Krishnendu Das to New Baul Singers:
​www.babukishan.org


Today 2017 people love Baul songs due to my family and our dedicated lifetime work of pioneering Baul around the world for over 70 years.  Before there was Facebook, can you even imagine how difficult it was.

 Before my family nobody knew who and what Baul was, we are the only lineage of Baul going back thousands of years. We have always been around and in the villages of Bengal as Guru's, Spiritual Messengers andteachers the spiritual newspaper before the newspaper. We originate from Ekachakra Birbhum Bengal and are indigenous to Birbhum going back thousands of years. We are not from some other part of India. We are the original Das and Dasi Hare Krishna Vaishnava Paul singers and dancer, Baul songs and Baul Kirtan   My Grandfather and Guru Nabani Das Khyappa Baul was part of the Freedom Movement in India singing before Nehru gave his speeches as Baul has always been known as the biggest attention intoxicating through the honey of their song, my only Lineage of Vaishnava Baul can draw people together from far and wide.

​Nabani Das Khyapa Paul sang for Nehru before all his talk all over India. Then my parents (Purna Das Paul and Manju Dasi) and myself (Krishnendu Das Baul aka Babu Kishan) did the same for Indira Gandhi and her son's Sanjay and Rajiv Gandhi. We sang on thousands of stages, stadiums all around India hundreds of times, the biggest India has to offer. Not only that we sang at the Royal Albert Hall and Carnage Hall, (those are considered prestigious).

My parents and the women in my lineage were legendary, they are the first and we are the only Lineage of Baul. Nobody in Baul every said Lineage except me and now there are others making up stories that are not true.


"So please go in a smooth flow like a trance of river and sing for Moner Manush, just saying because I am watching someone's 'youtube' who is singing my Grandfather poetry but naming a different poet? Don't be fake, we know you are, don't make people stupid by saying and setting up for preservation. Baul is already preserved my dear, that is why you are singing the songs from my Lineage. 

Even though people are liking but they mostly do not have any training in Baul music or musical ability, of course they screwing the wonderful lineage of Baul!

We didn’t have internet back then and it was so difficult to communicate and travel around the world. The hard time we had a hard time we had was to make was to make a road very easier for new comers!! 

From what I hear they (the new Baul singers) are not Baul Masters and need voice lessons, beyond voice lessons, development of voice quality, you cannot even sing in a cord or track!! Just singing Sakhi re…… then what, or trying be more tourist attractions spinning hair around and theatrical Bauls then Sadhana? They need more and more practise, all my life I composed music for World's top musicians and recorded singer like Lata Mangaskar and Asha Bhosle and many other. You can call me egotistical but it is my lineage I am an award winning music composer. I know tone and pitch and you are way, way out of tune.  

Be a Baul do great work, help people and inspire people but don’t make up 4 generations and sing the songs from my lineage giving other poets names it has already been recorded and documented before you were born. If someone gave you miss information that is not my problem it is yours.

Please do the practise and don't makeup stories and drama, just be true Baul!! 

Love u all, my blessing with all my brothers and sisters, don't try to be Nabani Das Khyapa Baul or Baul Samrat Purna Das just salute them have a great respect for them they are the one who gave you a chance to be Baul!! 

Joy Guru!! Don't even try to be them, you cannot even dream!! You don't even know how was hard to making this Baul from a village to International platform!! Not easy, and ofcourse only are one which is the last oldest BaulLineage in Bengal and World!!


Don't make stories, first learn how to sing and do Sadhna of Baul!!
Just keep focus on what you are doing!!
Who can sing like Purna Das Baul, Manju Dasi, Radharani Dasi, Brajabala Dasi or any of my lineage?

​We are the only lineage, I can tell you who everybody is and where they came from except for the new Bauls who are young and now I am seeing these bizarre stories.


Kichhu Din Mone Mone 

Kichchu Din Mone Mone  was written by the one and only Nabani Das Khyapa Baul.

Nabani was Rabindranath Tagore's friend and the only Baul to initiate Tagore into this Baul lineage, he gave Tagore the Baul name Ravi (Robi) Das Baul.


One of the best Baul kirtan written and tuned by my Grandfather and Guru Nabani Das khyapa Baul.

​Kichchu Din Mone Mone was officially recorded by my father Purna Das Baul  in the 1960's at India's First Record company, Hindustan Records.


Kicchu Din Mone Mone was written by Nabani Das Khyapa Baul and it is part of this lineage Baul. Lineage Baul Parampara Sampradaya the only Baul lineage. 

This is a very simple recording of my Grandfather Nabani Das Khyappa Baul song, singing by me his grandson Babukishan, aka Krishnendu Das Baul.  The sound is not great but it was recorded in 2002 in California on a simple recorder.

This song belongs to this lineage and credit to Baul Saint Sri Nabani Das Khyapa Baul. No one would even know about this song if it were not for my family rather than making up new lineages, tell the truth, know the truth.

New Baul singers are making up stories and new lineage that never existed before and leaving out where the songs originated from or putting in different poets names.  

 Please have respect for our Baul songs if you sing or record songs from this lineage please say who the Baul poet is and if you do not know, do not make it up.

Love song of Radha Krishna

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Baul Saint Nabani Das Khyapa Baul, highly respected Baul Avadhuta, Oral Sanskritist, Ayurvedic herbalist. Sadhaka at Tarapith he was initiated by Bamakhyepa himself. Nabani wandered all over INDIA, Tibet and Nepal.
If not for Baul Saint Nabani Das Kyappa Baul, Purna Das Baul and Maju Dasi, Lakshman Das Baul and Babukishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul there would be no one in this world who would know anything about Baul.

Babukishan should be given an oscar or an equivalent reward because if not for him no one would know anything about Baul. He created most of the relationships and maintained them for his Baul family, he has never asked for acknowledgement but I am saying after hearing what he has done for Baul. He is the first Baul author writing 3 books on Baul in the 1980's, the last one in 1986 was published with the help of George Harrison and Ravi Shankar. George Harrison was Babu's person friend. Ravi Shakar was a family friend he has known since childhood, Babu was best friends with Ravi Shakar's only son.

This lineage are the pioneers who brought Baul to the world. Today some 80 or 70 years later some Bauls are trying to do what they have done and that is a good thing they have been inspired by this lineage the oldest living lineage of Baul, however, the copying and deleting of this lineages names and then just listing them just as the Bauls of Bengal who were associated with Allen Ginsberg, Bob Dylan, George Harrison and more.

I have seen article after article on the net saying Bauls even received a Padma Shri Award, no Bauls did not a Baul did and his name is Sri Purna Das Baul, please use the names of the Baul and when saying Bauls were associated with Tagore, it was only Nabani Das Khyappa Baul.

Bauls were not associated with any of the below, it was only this family of Bauls the oldest living lineage and the Bauls who brought Baul to the world.

Please do not use what they have done and then generically say Bauls did.

If you were the Prime Minister of India would all chai walla's take credit and say Chai Walla's are Prime Minister of India?

This lineage and family are the only Bauls who have associated with, when you read Bauls associated with Bauls did not only Babukishan and family did. Bauls in general as posted on the internet did not.

It should read Babukishan aka
Krishnendu Das or Purna Das Baul or Nabani Das Baul associated with Bob Dylan, Allen Ginsberg and all:

NOT just "Baul associated with" these Bauls are the only lineage of Baul, they brought Baul to the world, deleting the names and claiming the stories as yours in a generic "Baul" is a cultural appropriation and identity theft, taking their poetry and calling it yours or making up the name of a poet is a Cultural Appropriation not only that it is a intellectual property theft and lack of respect.

Allen Ginsberg,
Bob Dylan,
George Harrison
The Rolling Stones,
Indira Gandhi,
Rabindranath Tagore
,
Jawaharlal Nehru,
Tara Shankar Bandhypadhya,
Kavi Nazrul,  Bidhan Chandra Roy,
Pankoj Mollick,
R. C. Boral,
S D Burman,
RD Burman,
Bimol Roy,
Sakti Pado RajGuru,
Uday Shankar,
Nitish Mukherjee,
Nitin Bose,
Shantidev Ghosh,
Ajit Ganguly,
Deben Bhattacharya,
Pahari Sanyal,
Timir Baran,
Allauddin Khan,
Dr. Amartya Sen's Grandfather Kshiti Mohan Sen,
Ram Kinkar Baij,
Sita Ram Omkarnath,
Ravi Shakar,
The President of India Pranab Mukerjee,
Sonja Gandhi,
Rajiv Gandhi,
Dr. Ananda Shankar Roy,
Priya Ranjan Dasmunsi,
Tv Producer Abhijit Das Gupta,
Jyoti Basu W Bengal former chief Mininster, Diretor General of India Radio.
Dr Bhupeen Hazarika,
Mithun Charabhorty,
Bapi Lahari,
MF Huissen,
Chuni Goswami,
Shyam Benegal,
Amitabha Bachchana,
Satyajit Ray,
Mrinal Sen,
Zakir Hussain,
Ratan Tata and many, many more. 


 Babukishan aka Krishnendu Das Baul is the only BAUL who has worked in Indian Cinema and Bollywood for 30 years in a big big way. He has, recorded composed and produced most of his father's music without taking credit or any payment, he did everything for his Calcutta family for free and gave them everything and in return they delivered negative prayers. A negative prayer is the opposite of being a well wisher.

All will be told in our upcoming book which is almost, ready for printing. There will be two books "The Rasa Lila Mystics" on this lineage and another book about Babukishan's life Baul to Bollywood to Canada and it will be unplugged.


If one can NOT understand Cultural Appropriation, ok forget about Cultural Appropriation. However, Colonialism has had a huge effect on the planet and Indian peoples. The question then would be how can anybody Not understand what Colonialism is and its effects on Indigenous peoples of the planet and India?Colonialism and Cultural Appropriation are very closely tied together.

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Saturday, February 3, 2018

Babu Kishan is the only Baul who had a long lasting many decades friendship with Allen Ginsberg, he is the only Baul that Ginsberg wrote Baul poetry for. Nabani Das Khyepa Baul was Ginsbergs Baul Guru, Nabani was Babu's Grandfather who raised him from birth and game him the name Krishnendu, Nabani is still to this day his Guru!


The American Poet Allen Ginsberg & Babu Kishan The Indian Poet

Babu Kishan is in the process of writing his personal story of  his long friend and friendship with Allen Ginsberg. He is the only Baul who developed a long friendship with Allen Ginsberg.

​Of course this friendship has it roots in Babu Kishan's Grandfather 'Nabani Das Khyepa Baul'who was an Avadhuta that Ginsberg met on his trip to India in '1962' and whom he kept a personal and private connection all his life. You can see Babu Kishan's link on Allen Ginsbergs Page under links, miscellany. Babu and Allen are both poets and they were mystical friends.




"We also are indebted to the influence of Allen Ginsberg, who met Nabani Das in the early 1960s and wrote “Indian Journals” and never wavered from his spiritual path; to Albert B. Grossman who brought Nabani’s sons Purna and Luxman Das Baul with their group to the US in 1967 to record for Elektra Records and tour; " 


Albert was the Music Producer of Bob Dylan. It was 'Allen Ginsberg' who contacted them to bring Nabani Das Khyapa Baul to America:

​"
Albert Bernard Grossman (May 21, 1926 – January 25, 1986) was an American entrepreneur and manager in the American folk music scene and rock and roll. He was famous as the manager of many of the most popular and successful performers of folk and folk-rock music, including Bob DylanJanis JoplinPeter, Paul and Marythe BandOdettaGordon Lightfoot and Ian & Sylvia."

It should be noted that it was Allen Ginsberg who wanted to bring Nabani Das Khyepa Baul to America but he refused, thus he sent his two son's, Laxshman Das Baul and Purna Das Baul and their band.
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Albert B Grossman with his wife and Babu Kishan 1983
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Dylan and Grossman
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Poetry written by Allen Ginsberg for Babu Kishan

This is the only Baul Poetry Allen Ginsberg wrote.

Baul of Bengal, I sing for all,  Blue Danube is my Jamuna,  Hudson my Vrindavan,  see me in Calcutta, Toronto and London,  Hear my call Baul of Bengal,  Same man many names,  same player,  many games,  Love is magic to win at life,  Hear my call O Baul of Bengal.
 

Written by Allen Ginsberg in 1983
as a gift to Babu Kishan ' 


Babukishan composed the music for the original in collaboration with Garth Hudson, Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm, (of The Band) Bob Dylan's Band in 1985 for the tour.  

This is the one and only piece of Baul poetry Ginsberg wrote.  Babu Kishan sang this on 40 city American tour with Bob Dylan and the Band.


Babu became great friends with The Band and jammed with them all the time.
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Deborah Baker the author of "A Blue Hand" a book about Allen Ginsberg. Babu Kishan was a chief Guest at the Mumbai Book Launch 2008.

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Long time friend of Babu Kishan's,  Author Amitav Ghosh who is Deborah Bakers husband andPrabodh Parik  a famed Gujurati Poet & Babu Kishan 2008 Mumbai @ the launch of  "The Blue Hand." a book about Allen Ginsberg.


Who is Babu Kishan?
Multi-Talented  Award Winning
Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das

Renowned Legendary 
INTERNATIONAL & INDIAN MUSIC ICON
 Humanitarian

​Indian Cultural Ambassador for 45 years 

Music Composer/Producer, Film-Maker 

Life Member of Indian Cine Music Directors Association  
Life Member of Indian Performing Rights Society

RELEASED 500 ALBUMS "PRIVATE AND INDIAN CINEMA"
RELEASED 300 Film ALL TOP LABELS AND FILM LABELS IN INDIA.
MULTI-INSTRUMENTALIST PLAYING, Master of 15 INSTRUMENTS 
Composed, Produced, Marketed Successfully 60 ALBUMS
200 or more of his poetry (lyrics) have produced super duper hit songs. 
150 MUSICAL Film SCORES FOR INDIAN CINEMA 

Senior Management in Indian Cinema, Music Consultant, Major Bollywood Event Film and Music Release Event Planner. Lifetime friends with Senior Journalist of all Major News Sources and Connected Politically from a young age.

​Babu Kishan aka Krishnendu Das has been a Cultural Representative of India for 45 years appointed by the Government of India (not self appointed), traveling through India and Worldwide for the Indian Government as a representative of Indian Culture since 1970 with ​Sangeet Natak Akademi ​"Indian National Academy of Music Dance and Drama" & ICCR "Indian Council of Cultural Relations"

Career History – Senior Management – Music & Film Industry India
1978 – 1990  HMV -  Composer, Writer of Music for famous India singers.
1986 -1993  Venus/Tips/Music India  -  Music Producer, and Composer
1986-1993  CBS  -  Music Producer, Creative Director India, promoter, of artist such as Cindy Lauper, Micheal Jackson, New Kids on the Block, Pink Floyd, Gypsy Kings, released all Bob Dylans Albums in India and Asia, including many many others.
1991 -2004  Digital Music Studio –  Owned & Operated Babukishan – Composer, Music Production for Film.
1994-1996  Time Audio Video – ABCL Amitabh Bachchan Corporation Ltd - Quality Assurance Manager Film & Music Production/Marketing, and Event Management. Film, and Music Promotion.
1997-2004 Universal Music Label -  Music Producer, Music Composer, Consultant
1996-1999 PEN Audio Video Film -  Music Producer, Promoter, Consultant
1996-2001 T-series -  Music Producer - Composer

Babu Kishan was a Artist & Repertoire (A&R Manager) for film and music, a  manager from concept to release, quality controller, talent search, contract, over seeing the whole film and music, promotion and sales of film and music. He has profitably successful marketed and sold 300 Films and 500 Albums Indian Cinema all top labels. Composed, Produced, Sold and Marketed at least 60 of his own albums. He is an expert at Creating Film from the start to the selling it successfully at the end. He is a Master Music Composer Producer from beginning to end sales and has been successful in the business of Film and Music for over 40 years.

Babu Kishan Produced and sold Film Rights for Super Hit Albums & Films.
​1978 -  2008


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